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Sidney Blumenthal vs. Norman Solomon on Karl Rove, the Democrats and Iraq

By Democracy Now!

Sidney Blumenthal, a former assistant and senior advisor to President Clinton, takes on Norman Solomon of the Institute for Public Accuracy and author of "War Made Easy: How Presidents and Pundits Keep Spinning Us to Death" on Iraq, the Democrats, the invasion of Iraq and much more.

Sidney Blumenthal, a former assistant and senior advisor to President Clinton and author of "The Clinton Wars." His latest article is "Rove's War" on

Norman Solomon, executive director of the Institute for Public Accuracy in San Francisco and the co-founder of Fairness & Accuracy in Reporting (FAIR). He latest book, just published, is "War Made Easy: How Presidents and Pundits Keep Spinning Us to Death."



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Give Me an A......."A!"
Give Me an M......."M!"
Give Me a Y......."Y!"

Because I've got big balls, he's got big balls, but SHE's got the biggest BALLS OF'EM ALL!!!

Praise to 'NO-WONDER WOMAN' and Knightly Norman on their undaunted and valiant quest for truth.

veritas vos liberabit and me

I too, wish to praise Amy and Norman. I praise Amy and her team every day of my life.
Norman, I believe as you do. Yes, outing of a CIA operative is a serious offense, however, I believe (as you do) that there are far more important issues that we need to be dealing with.
Sydney, in my opinion, did not come off as being very intelligent (with every other word being "ah").
That being said, I have to point out, that we are all under the assumption that Bush and his fellow war criminals are going to do the decent thing and play by the rules (when found guilty). Have they followed any laws yet?
Following laws simply does not happen with dictators. Dictators care nothing of what the people have to say.
As Gore Vidal (and I believe Norm Chomsky) have already stated...we must call this government what it truly is and what it truly represents. We must not cover up this truth the way the political parties are doing and corporate media is complicit in doing.
We have a military/industrial dictatorship. We have, as Sydney correctly pointed out, a Republican controlled House and Senate with an impotent Democratic party. This is a dictatorship!
We have a war mongering Executive Branch and we have industry that is profiting exponentially from this war. All the ingredients of a military/industrial dictatorship.
Do you seriously think that the "pigs at the trough" are going to do anything to jeopardize that?

I heard the interview with Solomon and Blumenthal, and was utterly shocked by one of the major stances Blumenthal took. I am still baffled. Solomon pointed out that even with Dean heading the DNC, the Democratic Party is presently backing the war, at least in the Senate, where not one Senator, he said, has come out unequivocally for leaving. And a few Senators, including Lieberman and Clinton, and perhaps Kerry, are actually calling for a significant increase in the size of the Army at this time. He quoted from Wayne Morse, I believe, early in the Vietnam War, arguing to leave, and saying that at least he wouldn't have support for the wrong war on his conscience.
In reply, Blumenthal excused the Democrats on two absurd grounds: first, that they are out of power, are totally closed out, so they can't do anything; and second, that they are split, with all sorts of positions on the war. In light of Solomon's comments, this statement, which he repeated twice, is completely obtuse. Solomon's point was that Democrats in Congress should be coming out against the war, loud and clear. If only some of them come out, well, that's still many more than Morse crying in the wilderness. Solomon's point wasn't that by doing this, Democrats could stop the war tomorrow. It's that opposing this hideous war, which daily makes every thing worse, including US national security, is a moral duty, and if only some Democrats do it now, fine, Democrats aren't constrained from publicly stating a position that doesn't have unanimous support among Democrats--hopefully, if some came out strongly, others would follow. The point is to build opposition to the war in every context, at every forum.
Blumenthal was so weasily in his answers, I can only surmise he must be opposed to pulling US troops out, though he wouldn't say this either.
Unfortunatlely, neither man mentioned that 61 members of the House already belong to a new caucus, the Out of Iraq caucus, and 128 have signed a letter requesting an investigation of the Downing Street documents (including 8 Republicans). It appears that the House is far ahead of the Senate on the Democratic side, on this issue.

The debate begins at 23:30 into the program. Blumenthal is remarkable in that he unabashedly makes the case for a "failed" Democratic Party. No rudder, no power. Time for a different party, I think. The rabble (us?) who support this kind of permanent leadership should look elsewhere. Yes, three cheers for Democracy Now staffers and its leaders! One need only review the events at the 2004 Dem Convention to be reminded of the fraud.

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