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MSNBC Says Karl Rove Leaked Valerie Plame Info


MSNBC Analyst Says Cooper Documents Reveal Karl Rove as Source in Plame Case
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NEW YORK Now that Time Inc. has turned over documents to federal court, presumably revealing who its reporter, Matt Cooper, identified as his source in the Valerie Plame/CIA case, speculation runs rampant on the name of that source, and what might happen to him or her. Tonight, on the syndicated McLaughlin Group political talk show, Lawrence O'Donnell, senior MSNBC political analyst, claimed to know that name--and it is, according to him, top White House mastermind Karl Rove.

Here is the transcript of O'Donnell's remarks:

"What we're going to go to now in the next stage, when Matt Cooper's e-mails, within Time Magazine, are handed over to the grand jury, the ultimate revelation, probably within the week of who his source is.

"And I know I'm going to get pulled into the grand jury for saying this but the source of...for Matt Cooper was Karl Rove, and that will be revealed in this document dump that Time magazine's going to do with the grand jury."

Other panelists then joined in discussing whether, if true, this would suggest a perjury rap for Rove, if he told the grand jury he did not leak to Cooper.

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It would be a certain kind of poetic justice if it was found out that Rove did indeed leak that information. We all know he is capable of such a thing. But to have the proof..... it is something lacking in everything else Bush et al has done. To have proof of his intentions.

I agree entirely with your assessment. Nothing is beyond this group of brigands, They show us time and again what the meaning of vitriolic is.
I wonder in amazement where are all of the sanctimonious breast beaters who were so aghast that a President could lie about a personnal indescretion. Why hasn't lying to send thousands to be killed and maimed while they kill and maim thousands of others offended their senses of honor.
Not to speak of course of the billions of dollars spent and placed into the Haliburton accounts among others. No doubt TAX FREE accounts.
Could it be that they are as morally bankrupt as the ones they are in bed with?

Many Are!!!!
The Racists, Bigots, Those Who Are Pro-Life But Get Abortions, The Religious[?] Extremists Starting Their Own Christianity, Etc. Etc. Etc. Etc. Etc. Etc. Etc. Etc.......................................

That's The Base Folks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

People continue to say that the career of this soldier was attacked as some kind of retribution against her husband. I suggest that it was a clear signal to others in the administration that they should 'toe the line' or face attacks on their families.

First Bolton and those documents that have not been released to the Senate, now just think about whose names are on them. Plame ?

So Bolton gives her name to Rove, and Rove tells Bush, and says this is the way we get Wilson. Common sense gives you the answers.

I swear this is the most CORRUPT administration in the history of this country.

When will the sheeple wake up, and more importantly when will the damn media do their job.

the people will never wake up. the job of the media is to ignore & distort the truth. this controversy will come to nothing.

There's some great print-out fliers on DowningStreetMemo.com ... I just leave them in public places (not work).

The Veterans and families (including those of the fallen) have no choice but to keep the issues alive. They need benefits and medical care. It's also up to the rest of America to remember that they are NOT forgotten after Bushco is impeached.

The Veterans and families (including those of the fallen) have no choice but to keep the issues alive. They need benefits and medical care. It's also up to the rest of America to remember that they are NOT forgotten after Bushco is impeached.

If the Time Inc notes prove that Karl Rove leaked information to discredit Joe Wilson and the Niger uranium truth, then this is the first hard documentary evidence that the Bush administration was intentionally fixing the facts to fit the policy!

Impeachment here we come, the rats are runnning scared, expect a run on criminal defense lawyers and paper shredders in Washington D.C.

Reason Rove started coming out of his Rat Hole and recently hitting the Media, trying to shore up his Image as a 'GURU'!!!

That really is something that should have Tipped Off Many right from the Start, This Clown has made nothing but Mistakes yet the Media have tried to build him up like they did with RAYgun, 'The Great Speaker'!!!!!!!!

The 1st domino has fallen. I can't wait for the avalanche to start (after all, shit does roll downhill.) A chagre of Perjury ???. What about the Federal crime of divulging the identity of a CIA operative that Bush41 approved????. I could say that Scarecrow George will now have to go visit the Great OZ to get a new "brain", but hopefully his trip down the yellow brick road will be a one way trip to a jail cell. Maybe he can tour Gitmo for 20 years.

Bush and Cheney in jail, now thats interesting. I am betting that little George will be Cheney's bitch.

How is that different than right now ??????

Good point.

They're good Christian boys, they wouldn't do that in prison.

if its true that rove was the leaker about valerie plame i hope the whole world finds out that the bush team is in trouble.

I'm going out right now to buy a set of dominoes...my new second favorite past-time !!! Of course, blogging for the Troops will always come first :)

I'm gonna start eating French fries again too... do they go well with French wine? It's better than eating crow.

With the truth about the downingstreet memo's coming to light, how about contacting your reps and demanding they hire a special counsel to investigate Bush on ALL aligations. Bush is guilty as sin and he should be held accountable for his grandious corrupt behavior. THIS NEOCON, RELIGIOUS RIGHT ADMINISTRATION HAS TO BE TAKEN DOWN.

In the light of the possible Karl Rove connection, it's obvious that Rove, Bush, and Cheney must be subpoenad, and made to testify under oath. The resulting record should then be made public.

Incidentally, I suggest looking at The US Code, Title 18, Part 1, Chapter 115, Sec. 2381.

Under oath makes no difference. Too bad we don't have reliable truth drugs. There's torture, but that's uncivilized, ya know.

The pattern that is emerging is that those who were the co-conspirators in this blatant criminal enterprise (use the Organized Crime RICO Statutes to bust them) are the ones who have been awarded Medals of Freedom and/or received promotions.

Ari Fleisher obviously washed out and could no longer be trusted to keep all of the lies straight following 9/11 - so they had to send him away.

Tenent, Bolton, Wolfowitz, Rove, and a long list of others have been rewarded for their loyal participation in the largest crime conspiracy ever undertaken. Follow the promotions...follow the leaked documents...follow the money...track the insider trading activity and trace it back to the timeline of who knew what when. The insiders are co-conspirators in a massive crime ring. Greenspan is one of the players too (what's up with all of those meetings with Cheney?).

The extent of the conspiracy is too large to grasp. The term "Conspiracy Theory" does apply...but the plot is so big and so complex, no one would ever believe it. 9/11 was in the script from the outset.

One would need to be a "Coincidence Theorist" to assume that a conspiracy was not involved in all that has transpired.

Karl Rove needs to do some time in Gitmo. Let's put our most evil interregators to work on his fat ass and see how that cherub starts to sing like a baby when they shove a broom stick up his ass.

George Bush Senior was adamant that one of the worst crimes a citizen can commit is to "out" an undercover CIA Agent. Let's find all of the quotes that Sr. made on this subject and use them as the basis to go after Rove for High Treason.

Exposing Rove and his lies is the key to unlock the gate. He knows everything. Don't be surprised if he winds up disappeared or suicided - or a plane that he's flying on just happens to fall out of the sky.

It's desparation time folks. Anything can happen next.

Google "False Flag" for a preview of what scoundrels are capable of.

Obviously there is a group of patriots in the government that are fighting the good fight, or the courts would not have insisted that Rove's name be revealed. They had to violate the constitution in order to defend it.

Please return your seats to their full upright position and stowe your tray tables and personal belongings, as things are about to get extremely turbulent.

Game on!

If the conspiracy were a snake it would've bit us all in the a** ... it was right there all along right in front of our noses on their PNAC website. Bushco's open arrogance and thuggery is beyond all everyday Americans comprehension... we Americans are a naive breed, Europeans are not & never bought Bush's "culture of lies".

WHERE IS THE MEDIA? there has been so many damnable allegations against this malignant regime, I again re-iterate, where is responsible journalism in this country? Are they just scared shitless of what will happen if they investigate? This is traditionally what journalist do. If the media refuses to do their job, then I am afraid it is up to the citizens of this country to rise up; the problem with that is most Americans are ambivalent, a nice way of saying they just don't give a shit, the others are neo-naz--ops, sorry, neo-cons.

a popular revolt is about the only thing left, but unless Michael Jackson, Tom Cruise and the runaway bride all show, I don't think we're gonna get the numbers we need.

But this turn of events provides a small ray of hope.

- oroboros

...why not run an honest freak and turn him loose, on *their* turf, to show up all the "normal" candidates for the worthless losers they are and always have been? Why defer to the bastards? Why assume they're intelligent? Why believe they won't crack and fold in a crunch?... This is the essence of what some people call "the Aspen technique" in politics: neither opting out of the system, nor working within it... but calling its bluff, by using its strength to turn it back on itself.... and by always assuming that the people in power are not smart. By the end of the Edwards campaign I was convinced, despite my lifelong bias to the contrary, that the Law was actually on our side. Not the cops, or the judges or the politicians- but the actual Law, itself, as printed in the dull and musty lawbooks that we had constantly to consult because we had no other choice.

- Hunter S. Thompson

If Rove was really the architect of outing Plame, then expect a lot of scary smoke and mirrors (Wizard of Oz-style) on the way to discovering the man behing the curtain. Rove will cook up a bunch of false alarms-- planes entering Washington airspace, terror threats, etc, and the neocons will gladly report them. Especially look ahead to the 4th of July weekend as people will be relaxing and Rove would like to scare them into submission.

Bush, the father's words will be used to hang Bush, the son:

"Even though I'm a tranquil guy now at this stage of my life, I have nothing but contempt and anger for those who betray the trust by exposing the name of our sources. They are, in my view, the most insidious of traitors."
-- George Herbert Walker Bush, 1999

Section 421 of the Intelligence Identities Protection Act of 1982 reads as follows:

"Whoever, having or having had authorized access to classified information that identifies a covert agent, intentionally discloses any information identifying such covert agent to any individual not authorized to receive classified information, knowing that the information disclosed so identifies such covert agent and that the United States is taking affirmative measures to conceal such covert agent's intelligence relationship to the United States, shall be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both."

Remember, it was also Karl Rove who set-up Dan Rather to report a story that Rove knew to be false. Rove manufactured the flase document regarding Bush's military service, made sure it got into the hands of Rather, made no effort to dispute the contents of the document when it was presented to the White House for comment (thereby ensuring that Rather would run with the story), then let the hammer fall, killing a "liberal" journalist's career.

Now flash forward to the Downing Street Minutes. The reason no U.S. journalists wanted to touch the story is that they had already seen how Rove operates, and couldn't be certain if this was yet another Rovian set-up.

Karl Rove has single-handedly shackled journalists, who know that Rove is an evil bastard capable of destroying them. As soon as Rove is on the ropes and his power is tripped away, watch the media go after his ass. Time for the Gannon/Guckert truth to be revealed. Religious Conservatives will be humiliated to have hitched their wagon to these hoodlums, and their cause will have been set back ten years.

Payback time.

Rove is a great start-- he should be brought to justice if he outed Plame.

Once exposed, the people behind the curtain will become more irrational than ever (Rove, Bush, Rumsfeld, Cheney). There's plenty more you can nail Rove with, but remember, this is a country that still has some semblance of law (although that is disappearing quickly with all of the neocon assaults on the constitution).

Remember, there's a lot of neocons in this cabal, and they all have marching orders. If you get one, there's plenty more to fill in their shoes.

The PNAC is a document that was a over a decade in the making, and these characters desperately want to prove it's poisoned and flawed logic to the world. They'll continue to swear that Iraq is a utopia with lots of daisies and chocolates, and that Afghanistan is no longer producing heroin poppies or Taliban.

Their great castle in the air is fast-sinking to bedrock reality and they sure as heck are denying it. It isn't Oz anymore. Back to Kansas. Many are going down with the ship. Think Titanic. Or Battle of Algiers.

PS What's up with Cheney's heart right now? He seems to have terrible heart things happen when something ultra-stressful is up-- remember the heart problem he had on the cusp of the 2000 election, when Katherine Harris ALMOST didn't steal the election from Gore?

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_con...

A little Newsweek payback on tap:

"Since I revealed the big scoop, I have had it reconfirmed by yet another highly authoritative source. Too many people know this. It should break wide open this week. I know Newsweek is working on an 'It's Rove!' story and will probably break it tomorrow."

Karl Rove knows too much.About 9/11 and many other things. Will he keep quiet? Of course he will - remember jack ruby?

So he's going to be loyal and take all the blame - no revelations beyond that.

America is not going to be allowed to leave Iraq that easily - not until it has been given a bloody nose - by the very same folks it gave a bloody nose to in Afghanistan.

And what will keep America there? Some information about 9/11 that the secret services of the world are privy to and which is being used to blackmail the persons who've got to make the descision to get out.

Glad the noose is tightening around Rove, if he is the source of the leak.

Beyond the leak, the Downing Street memos are a smoking gun. Lets follow these up and impeach/lock up those who are responsible for leading this country into an unjust, horrific, unconstitutional war.

And I don't believe a word of 9/11 conspiracy bosh-- here's why-- this administration is TOO DUMB to pull off a conspiracy of such magnitude. That's giving these imcompetents in office too much credit, although I empathize with people who DO agree that some of them might be sicko enough to dream something like that up.

Making too much of this administration's incompetence on 9/11-- i.e. "They knew it and planned it"-- these are extraordinary claims and demand extraordinary proof. Rather than looking for ghost leads to link this administration to 9/11, beyond this administration's own bungling incompetence, how about looking at the purloined letter, the PNAC? The purloined letter is the document right out in the open. This document shows that neoconservatives planned the Iraq invasion years ago. They were hell bent on it.

The Downing Street memos are extraordinary proof. This administration used 9/11 fears to launch an illegitimate invasion of a troubled country, Iraq, which is sitting on a huge reserve of oil. There are much more dangerous dictators/countries in this world, namely, N. Korea.

Present tense: after the Iraq invasion, and as the US is now being viewed as the number one threat to world peace on this planet by many informed and intelligent countries (Britain, Australia, Italy, England, among others), shouldn't we seriously consider regime change at home?

The Downing Street memos are only the beginning.

"..how about looking at the purloined letter, the PNAC? The purloined letter is the document right out in the open. This document shows that neoconservatives planned the Iraq invasion years ago. They were hell bent on it."

I don't believe Bushco planned 9/11 either (too many honest & courageous firepeople & police officers out there at the time), but my theory is I DO think Bushco openly planted the R.A.D. docs on the PNAC website in order to egg on ANY enemy to get the catastrophic event Buchco needed to sell Iraq War to Americans. The old childish "I dare ya" routine, only on a rich arrogant good-ole-boy scale. Such docs as PNAC's R.A.D. should be normally safely hidden by the Pentagon, but of course NON-neocons would not approve of such docs, even at the Pentagon (too many smoking guns near the actual brass.) But PNAC is not a governmental department, it's a nonprofit organization, like the Girl Scouts of America.

Can an enormously organized crime syndicate hide behind the guise of a tax-exempt, non-profit organization? If it looks like a duck...?

In your comment, you dismiss the prospect that 9/11 might have been a false flag operation designed and implemented as a pretext for war, while simultaneously holding out the PNAC plan as a road map for the NeoCONS to follow.

The PNAC plan specifically singeled out the NEED for a "New Pearl Harbor" as a pretext for implementation of the broader plan. Should we really assume that they have carried out the plan while chalking up 9/11 (the essential trigger for their plan) as merely a coincidence?

If you believe that the NeoCONS are following the plan as laid out in the PNAC (as do I), why would you ignore the pretext for war as spelled out in those documents by Richard Pearle (Harbor) himself?

Are you a coincidence theorist?

Just because you can't imagine such a conspiracy does not mean there was not one. The guns are smoking all over the place.

Somebody please help me understand why the Mossad Agents in New York happened to be celebrating while filming the smoldering trade center towers. Anyone? Somebody help me understand why these agents were held and then deported to Israel. Somebody help me understand why Carl Cameron's three part series on FAUX News detailing this matter was subsequently scrubbed from their web site.

Google: Cameron spy ring
Google: "dancing israelis"
Google: "false flag"
Google: "USS Liberty"
Google: bush saw first plane
Google: rumsfeld shot down
Google: "Israeli art students"
Google: odigo warned
Google: 9/11 insider trading

Bush saw the first plane fly into the first tower on TV before he went into that school to read to those children... He said so.

The only possible way for that to occur is on closed circuit TV inside the President's limo. How was it that he happened to be watching that?

Rumsfeld admits that flight 93 was "shot down" on 9/11, yet the official government story is never changed to reflect this truth.

Why are they lying? What are they hiding? How many people know the same lie? How many will step forward once the Administration is on the ropes?

Assume nothing. The truth will blow you away.

WHO WAS REALLY FLYING THOSE PLANES ON 9-11?

Hours after the 9-11 attacks, authorities began to find clues conveniently left for them to stumble upon. The Boston Globe reported that a copy of the Koran, instructions on how to fly a commercial airplane, and a fuel consumption calculator were found in a pair of bags meant for one of the hijacked flights that left from Logan.

Authorities also received a “tip

Insider trading: why haven't they declared who profited on 9/11....there is something definitely funny about alot on 9/11 that you may never find out about...but trading - there have to be tickets and information about who made those trades? Where are they?

Just do a search on 9/11.
AND look up 9/11 and Marvin Bush.
A few simple questions open pandoras box to knock your sox off.
Why didnt we have our planes respond when planes were off course
as they are supposed to. You might even be surprised when you seek
out 9/11 in Plane Site, not to mention Loose Change.
Look at any newspaper or magazine photos you may have of the Pentagon
on 9/11. Where is a commercial airliner, and look at the damage.
They are not so dumb, they just think we are dumber.

Remember that when this case started that Ashcroft as Attorney General disqualified himself and W hired legal counsel for this.

As usual MSM will ignore this story as well. So far no word on CNN, Google or YAHOO.

We need independent news channle, foreign based.

Good call:

"As usual MSM will ignore this story as well. So far no word on CNN, Google or YAHOO."

"We need independent news channle, foreign based."

Question:
Is the MSM mainstream anymore? Hasn't the internet (blogs, rawstory.com, afterdowningstreet.org) replaced the MSM as the true mainstream? How come the Downing Street memos have rocketed around the internet while the dinosaur MSM can't get out of the info-tainment tar pits?

I swear, if I see Tom (Get-a-Room) Cruise jump up and down on one more couch... only if Karl Rove is sitting on it at the time, now THAT's info-tainment !

Most of the major media, such as NYT, Wash. Post , LA Times , Chicago Tribune, International Herald and the TV/Radio Networks qualify themselves as Mean Stream.

The problem with all of them is that they were told right after 9/11 to carry the Party Line. at the risk of being called Non Patriotic
with who knows what consequences. At minimum being blacklisted and being cut off from the Government Information Sources.

This effects their competitive standing. Being called to ask a question at a press conference is a big deal for today's USD 100K or
200K "journalists" and TV show guests.

Now one might say, with the Internet, who needs the media? This is however not what most citizens think at this point. in time.

It is therefore that we need to build networks , internet, radio and TV that are able to serve the US and are known by la large portion of the population. This is a hugh task.

Much can be learned from studying the situation and conditions in the USSR and the Main land China. Certainly in the case of the PRC an ongoing battle between the communists and the educated part of the population.

Radio Free Europe, Voice of America, CNN International, BBC foreign Service and the like and in the case of the SU the Internet
or perhaps the event of home computers.

We are facing with situations as in Germany with Hitler and the Soviet Union as well as PRC where the government want to control the news and opinions of the citizens.

See as a thought of idea:

http://www.iwtnews.com/

Also of great concern for the future of a free internet:

This morning I saw a post where the administration is thinking of controlling the DNS servers on the internet.

Can't find the link at the moment. However in doing so they can eliminate URL's etc world wide. I guess that's what the Chinese do.

Food for thought and concern.
::

I checked it out and I will definitely donate to their independant news web construction and later maintenance... the internet belongs to WE PEOPLE !

Here is the link from:

THE News Source:

http://www.rawstory.com/

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/internet_control

No hidden site!

Here is the link from:

THE News Source:

http://www.rawstory.com/

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/internet_control

No hidden site!

We do need an independent news channel (organization). This is a very good idea. Publicly owned, not for sale. A good business opportunity.

It's Building Right Now, It's Coming On Air By 2006, Or Sooner, It's WebSite Was Just Launched In The Middle Of March!!!

Visit, Search Site, Read Plan, See Names Of Those Involved, Sign On, Donate If You Can, Pass On To Others:

http://www.iwtnews.com/

07.02.2005 Lawrence O'Donnell

Rove Blew CIA Agent's Cover

I revealed in yesterday's taping of the McLaughlin Group that Time magazine's emails will reveal that Karl Rove was Matt Cooper's source. I have known this for months but didn't want to say it at a time that would risk me getting dragged into the grand jury.

McLaughlin is seen in some markets on Friday night, so some websites have picked it up, including Drudge, but I don't expect it to have much impact because McLaughlin is not considered a news show and it will be pre-empted in the big markets on Sunday because of tennis.

Since I revealed the big scoop, I have had it reconfirmed by yet another highly authoritative source. Too many people know this. It should break wide open this week. I know Newsweek is working on an 'It's Rove!' story and will probably break it tomorrow.

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Ment 'NewsWeeks' Site, Hey I'm watching/listening to 'Live8', and as an Young 'Boomer' ready for a Nap, so Give Me A Break!!!!;c]

Just suppose prince stupid wasn't all that suprised about Sandra Day O'Conner retiring. Just suppose he knows it's not a good idea to trot out the color code system any longer. And just suppose he needed news to supercede Roves name being made public.

Wonder what he'll try when his impeachment proceedings begin! Marshall law? We have to stay on the media to keep this front page news.

Does anyone have the email addressess for the major news outlets that I can copy and paste?

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