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Brit Labour Leadership Turning Into Doves Now?


By jimstaro - Posted on 03 July 2010

Seems many involved, or heavily connected by political ideology, in all the death and destruction of others, as well as their own {ours}, these past years, are starting to sing like birds of peace and not squawk like birds of prey, on both sides of the pond.

David Miliband: we did not need to fight Iraq war

 

03 Jul 2010 The Labour leadership candidate takes time off the campaign trail to tell Mary Riddell what he thinks about WMD, the Gordon Brown years ... and his brother Ed.

Labour leadership hopeful David Miliband Photo: PA

In A Midlands trades and labour club, David Miliband is asked about Afghanistan."I'm terrified my son will be posted there," says a soldier's father. "I don't want my son to die."

At every stop in his leadership campaign, Mr Miliband fields similar questions. "Your son will be making a difference," he says, and he means it. But, away from the meeting, he also warns of the urgent need for a peace deal to end the Afghan war. "There is no time to lose," he says. The compact he envisages would include not only Taliban fighters but tribal warlords. "It must be an inclusive peace."

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Is he saying the war should never have been fought? "The way I put it is that if we knew then what we know now, there wouldn't have been a war. I've set out that if we knew there were no WMD, there would have been no UN resolutions and no war.

"The toll in British and Iraqi life, never mind the toll in trust, has been very, very high. It's a war we didn't need to fight," he says before reverting to his previous formula, saying he is mindful of the dead and doesn't want to "rewrite my own history."

He pauses, conscious that he has gone further than he intended. But his regrets and reservations over Iraq sound at least equal to those of his brother and Mr Balls? "Of course. People are dead. I voted in good faith." Did his brother ever express his misgivings to him? "I'm not getting into opening up private discussions," he says. "He was in America at the time."

The other lingering issue of his old brief will surface shortly, with the Government expected to announce a judge-led inquiry into claims that British intelligence agencies were complicit in the torture of terrorism suspects. Continued

On this side of the pond we've been having the typical, for recent history, and easy to recognize, for some people as it was while going on, the rovian revisionist history ideology, Blame Anybody But The Real War Criminals as to both occupations {but used for every issue where the need is felt}, as the country yawns and holds no one accountable nor wants to. It's that 'moveon' it's in the past, no lessons to be learned, no need to minimize any type of blowback by holding all those involved up to public indictments, and keep changing the subject so the country quickly forgets the reality and hires you back into the seats of power and policy!

 

Just a very recent sample

 

 

Seems many involved, or heavily connected by political ideology, in all the death and destruction of others, as well as their own {ours}, these past years, are starting to sing like birds of peace and not squawk like birds of prey, on both sides of the pond.

So it seems, but the question is why, what's going on that they're not talking about publicly?

Milliband says, publicly, that the war on Iaq should not have happened? So what? The U.S. is apparently withdrawing tens of thousands of troops, while planning to leave around 50,000 plus thousands of contractors, surely including plenty of "security" contractors, and there isn't serious Iraqi Resistance fighting going on. So if the U.S. is withdrawing this many of its military troops, then the British politicians can surely begin to try to distance themselves from their criminal complicity by talking sweetly.

Meanwhile, the U.S. plans on building up more in Afghanistan and Milliband saying a peaceful solution that includes the Taliban and (Northern Alliance) war lords can sound or seem sweet, but his words are surely worthless; just hot air, likely just PR stuff.

It might be strategic political PR to try to calm the British public down because the public is surely increasingly angry about their govt keeping British forces in the war in Afghanistan when the numbers of NATO troop casualties has serious risen.

I won't think his words are worth much, if anything at all, until they're backed up by or with real actions that concord with the words.

And while I'm not an expert in this respect, I don't imagine that the Taliban will be interested in agreeing to cooperate with Northern Alliance war and drug lords. I doubt the Taliban have changed this much. And if they haven't, which is likely, then surely the British govt is aware of this.

Politics is full of hypocrisy, lots of little games played on the public.

Before believing Milliband is sincere, we need proof of it and words are not proof.

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