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Cheney Attempts to Tie Iraq to 9-11 Again


By Douglass K. Daniel
The Associated Press

Washington - Vice President Dick Cheney on Monday said he strongly disagrees with a battle-tested congressman who advocates quickly pulling all US troops from Iraq, calling such a proposal "a dangerous illusion."

But Cheney stopped short of joining those Republicans who have questioned the patriotism and courage of Rep. John Murtha, D-PA, calling him "a good man, a Marine, a patriot." Cheney's subdued comments about Murtha followed those of President Bush and Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld.

At the same time, Cheney pressed the administration's high-voltage attack on war critics, particularly Senate Democrats who voted in October 2002 to give Bush authority to go to war in Iraq and who now oppose his policy, calling them "dishonest and reprehensible."

"The flaws in the intelligence are plain enough in hindsight. But any suggestion that prewar information was distorted, hyped or fabricated by the leader of the nation is utterly false," Cheney said in a speech to the American Enterprise Institute.

As to proposals for a rapid pullout of US troops, Cheney said, "It is a dangerous illusion to suppose that another retreat by the civilized world would satisfy the appetite of the terrorists and get them to leave us alone." Nearly 160,000 US troops remain in Iraq.

Cheney ticked off a long list of terrorist attacks on American interests going back more than the two decades that preceded the 2003 US-led invasion of Iraq, including the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks and earlier ones in Beirut, Saudi Arabia and Africa.

"Now they're making a stand in Iraq, testing our resolve, trying to intimidate the United States into abandoning our friends and permitting the overthrow of this new Middle Eastern democracy," Cheney said.

He said he respected the right of Murtha to form his own opinion. Murtha has served in Congress for three decades, is a decorated Marine combat veteran from Vietnam, the top Democrat on the House Appropriations defense subcommittee and has long been an ardent defender of the armed forces.

"Nor is there any problem with debating whether the United States and its allies should have liberated Iraq in the first place," Cheney said. "Nobody is saying we should not be having this discussion."

But, Cheney added, "Those who advocate a sudden withdrawal from Iraq should answer a few simple questions," including whether the United States be "better off or worse off" with terror leaders such as Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, Osama bin Laden, or Ayman al-Zawahiri in control?

On Monday, Murtha defended his call to get out of Iraq, saying he was reflecting Americans' sentiment.

"The public turned against this war before I said it," Murtha said, speaking in his hometown of Johnstown, Pennsylvania. "The public is emotionally tied into finding a solution to this thing, and that's what I hope this administration is going to find out."

The administration has been toning down its criticism of Murtha since White House spokesman Scott McClellan derided him last week as an ultraliberal, likening him to activist far-left filmmaker Michael Moore.

The Iraq debate turned more vitriolic in recent days, with the Senate voting overwhelmingly to require fuller reporting by the administration on progress, and by Murtha's proposal. That brought sharp criticism from the White House and led to a tumultuous late-night House floor fight when the GOP leaders forced a vote on an immediate pullout measure in hopes of trapping Democrats. It was rejected 403-3.

Meanwhile, troop levels will remain at their present levels as Iraqis prepare for elections Dec. 15, and will return to a baseline strength of 130,000 when the commanders there determine that conditions on the ground warrant it, Rumsfeld said on Sunday.

Some Republicans on Capitol Hill called Murtha's position one of abandonment and surrender and suggested that the decorated Marine Corps veteran and like-minded politicians were acting cowardly.

But Bush, who was returning Monday from a tour of Asia, praised Murtha as "a fine man" and said that disagreeing with the administration was not unpatriotic.

Rumsfeld, appearing on the Sunday morning news shows, acknowledged that questions about war ought to be debated, but he also warned that words have consequences for both the insurgents in Iraq and the US troops opposing them.

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I'm just astonished by Dick Cheney's continued ignorance. First of all, his continued diatribe about Democrats who voted for war is ridiculous in light of the evidence they were given prior to the vote. Its like saying the person who gets conned is to blame and the perpetrator goes free. Secondly, his "simple" question, would we be better off or worse with terror leaders in control, should be answered by him and his co-conspirators. Who quit pursuing Osama? Whose pre-emptive decision ignited the fires in the radical islamists under Zarqawi? His rationales are distorted and reflect his self-protectionist stance in light of all the revelations coming out.

Take a good look at this quote from Cheney, it reminds me of pro wrestling when the bad guys always used the dreaded "foreign object" and hid it away out of the sight of the ref. Also look at the identity of the audience, Chalabi's buddies:

"The flaws in the intelligence are plain enough in hindsight. But any suggestion that prewar information was distorted, hyped or fabricated by the leader of the nation is utterly false," Cheney said in a speech to the American Enterprise Institute.

Now check out this quote:

"It is a dangerous illusion to suppose that another retreat by the civilized world would satisfy the appetite of the terrorists and get them to leave us alone."

Some "civilized world" the good old USofA hs been for the last 5 years, eh? Dickie boy, get a pacemaker recharge. The "terrorists" are laughing in Afganistan because you fuckers diverted military assets after your real target all along, Iraq's oil! No amouint of your sanctimonious bullshitting is now going to stem the tide of public opinion. Your gig is all but over. Schedule your "medical resignation" speech now and don't let the door hit you in your ass on the way out you miserable son of a bitch!

:o)

GOOGLE PNAC> "OUT" THE CABAL ! http://www.cafepress.com/googlepnac

"It is a dangerous illusion to suppose that another retreat by the civilized world would satisfy the appetite of the terrorists and get them to leave us alone."

HAhAhahahhAHhhaAH!!!!!
This Cheney asshole is too much!!!

Aaaawwwww! The poor lil' ol' civilized world is ALWAYS being picked on. When are those terrorists going to just leave us alone?
Waaaahh-waaah-wah

This psychotic bunch of bums makes me sick.

AMEN!

What a koinkydink that the Cheney/Wolfy/Rummy frankenstein creation of the "Project of a New American Century" just happens to be in the same building with the American Enterprise Institute.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Enterprise_Institute

And , Lynne Cheney, Dick's wife just happens to be an AEI Senior Fellow. Of course the same foundations fund both AEI and the PNAC. Reuel Marc Gerecht is also a resident fellow of the AEI & the director of the Project for the New American Century's Middle East Initiative and a former Middle East specialist at the CIA. However, I believe the most notable member of the AEI is Michael Ledeen. Ledeen was previously involved in the transfer of arms to Iran during the Iran-Contra affair. The following quote from Wikipedia is regarding Ledeen and his possible connection to the Niger Yellowcake Forgeries:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Ledeen

'... In 2005, Vincent Cannistraro, former head of counterterrorism operations at the CIA and the intelligence director at the National Security Council under Ronald Reagan, when asked by Ian Masters if Ledeen was the source of the forged memo that claimed that Iraq had sought to purchase yellowcake uranium from Niger replied, "You'd be very close." However, just moments earlier when asked, "Do we know who produced those documents?" Cannistraro stated, " I’d rather not speak about it right now, because I don’t think it’s a proven case"... '

And while Cheney himself knows there's no connection to Iraq and 9/11, he also certainly knows that there IS a connection to Iraq and PNAC (even before he was selected as co-president):

http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf

Seems Cheney is preaching to his choir at AEI.

GOOGLE PNAC> "OUT" THE CABAL ! http://www.cafepress.com/googlepnac

There is only ONE place for you, Dick Cheney........please go directly pass BACK PEDDLING your lies and head directly to:

the island of Alcatraz infamous federal prison long off-limits to the public. Please join your other NOTORIOUS INMATES...BUSH and CO.

http://www.nps.gov/alcatraz/

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