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Yes, Shooting Handcuffed Children
By David Swanson
Silly me. I thought I could comment on something that was in the news without proving that it was in the news. Maybe this will help:
UN says Afghans slain in troop raid were students
By DUSAN STOJANOVIC, Associated Press Writer, Thu Dec 31, 1:26 pm ET
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091231/ap_on_re_as/as_afghanistan_unKABUL – The United Nations said Thursday that a weekend raid by foreign troops in a tense eastern Afghan province killed eight local students and warned against nighttime actions by coalition forces because they often cause civilian deaths.
The Afghan government said its investigation has established that all 10 people killed Sunday in a remote village in Kunar province were civilians. Its officials said that eight of those killed were schoolchildren aged 12-14. . . .
UN special representative in Afghanistan Kai Eide said in a statement that the preliminary UN investigation showed "strong indication" that there were insurgents in the area at the time of the attack.
But, he added, "based on our initial investigation, eight of those killed were students enrolled in local schools." . . .
Eide said the UN remained concerned about nighttime raids by coalition troops "given that they often result in lethal outcomes for civilians, the dangerous confusion that frequently arises when a family compound is invaded." . . .
A statement issued Thursday by the Afghan National Security Directorate said the government investigation showed no Afghan forces were involved and "international forces from an unknown address came to the area and without facing any armed resistance, put 10 youth in two rooms and killed them.
"They conducted this operation on their own without informing any security or local authorities of Afghanistan," the statement said.
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Associated Press writer Rahim Faiez in Kabul contributed to this report.
I've excerpted much of the above article, but not the military denials. Go read them at the link above. Here's the Los Angeles Times:
Western troops killed civilians, Afghan investigators say
The government investigators say eight of those killed over the weekend in a remote eastern province were boys under 18. Western military officials say there is no evidence to back the claim.
By Laura King, Los Angeles Times, December 31, 2009Reporting from Kabul, Afghanistan - Afghan government investigators asserted Wednesday that foreign troops had killed 10 civilians in a raid this week, including eight students younger than 18. Western military officials called the charge unsubstantiated and urged a joint investigation. . . .
A statement from the presidential palace said Karzai had offered condolences to the families of the dead, and endorsed the initial findings of an investigative panel that had traveled to Kunar at his behest.
The head of the Afghan delegation, Asadullah Wafa, said 10 males, all civilians, were taken from their homes in Ghazikhan village, in the Narang district, and then shot dead by foreign troops. The report cited the village schoolmaster as identifying eight of them as pupils between the ages of 12 and 17. . . .
Wafa, a close aide to Karzai, suggested that an informant had provided misleading information to Western forces, triggering the strike. Afghan villagers have sometimes tried to settle scores with rival clans or tribes by falsely reporting insurgent activity to the authorities. . . .
laura.king@latimes.com
Copyright © 2010, The Los Angeles Times
The above article has been dismissed by commenters on progressive websites because it was posted by the progressive website Common Dreams. Never mind that Common Dreams has been right far more often than the Los Angeles Times. Below is a collection of sources put together (and presumably thereby tarnished) by Talking Points Memo:
Afghan Children Handcuffed, Then Killed By American Soldiers
January 1, 2010, 7:38AM
Talking Points Memo
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/r/u/rutabaga_ridgepole/2...
TPM starts with the Times:
From the London Times, December 31, 2009...
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/Afghanistan/article6971638.ece
President Karzai sent a team of investigators to Narang district, in eastern Kunar province, after reports of a massacre first surfaced on Monday.
"The delegation concluded that a unit of international forces descended from a plane Sunday night into Ghazi Khan village in Narang district of the eastern province of Kunar and took ten people from three homes, eight of them school students in grades six, nine and ten, one of them a guest, the rest from the same family, and shot them dead," a statement on President Karzai's website said.
Assadullah Wafa, who led the investigation, said that US soldiers flew to Kunar from Kabul, suggesting that they were part of a special forces unit.
Mr Wafa, a former governor of Helmand province, met President Karzai to discuss his findings yesterday. "I spoke to the local headmaster," he said. "It's impossible they were al-Qaeda. They were children, they were civilians, they were innocent. I condemn this attack."
In a telephone interview last night, the headmaster said that the victims were asleep in three rooms when the troops arrived. "Seven students were in one room," said Rahman Jan Ehsas. "A student and one guest were in another room, a guest room, and a farmer was asleep with his wife in a third building.
"First the foreign troops entered the guest room and shot two of them. Then they entered another room and handcuffed the seven students. Then they killed them."
Directly from Karzai's website...
http://president.gov.af/Contents/91/Documents/1124/phone_talks_kunar_eng...
President Karzai in a telephone contact expressed condolences and shared grief with the families of the victims of the recent attack in Kunar province.
Following the attack, President Karzai tasked a delegation on Monday led by the Chief of Complaints Commission and composed of representatives from the ministries of Defense, Interior, National Directorate of Security and the Office of Administrative Affairs for an immediate investigation of the incident.
The findings by the delegation concluded that a unit of international forces descended from a plane Sunday night into Ghazi Khan Village in Narang district of the eastern province of Kunar and took 10 people from three homes, eight of them school students in grades six, nine and 10, one of them a guest, the rest from the same family, and shot them dead.
Eight of those shot dead were confirmed as school students by the village school principle.
From the New York Times...
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/29/world/asia/29afghan.html
The governor of Kunar, Fazullah Wahidi, said that "the coalition claimed they were enemy fighters," but that elders in the district and a delegation sent to the remote area had found that "10 people were killed and all of them were civilians."
From the United Nations...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34644227/ns/world_news-south_and_central_asia/
The United Nations said Thursday that a weekend raid by foreign troops in a tense eastern Afghan province killed eight local students and that it warned against nighttime actions by coalition forces because they often cause civilian deaths.
That last quote is simply from the same AP story I quoted above, but posted on the MSNBC website. The UN special representative, you'll recall, is named and quoted above.
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Yahoo News! published the Associated Press account, also.
It really wasn't under-reported, as this Google search shows:
Sounds as though they're so shocked that they are in denial.
If they can't defend it, they deny it, just like the neocons did with Bushco.
These "progressive" cowards have become this administration's disinformation foot soldiers, shilling for the misguided cause, simply because the guy they committed all their blind faith to is now in the White House.
Anybody truly paying attention can tell you that Obama is nothing more than Bush with coherent sentences.
We've all made our mistakes. Better to admit you've been had and start working for real change, instead of adopting the strategy of the very people you stood so proudly against for eight years.
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Quoting from David Swanson's article and only regarding the CD website, he says:
"The above article has been dismissed by commenters on progressive websites because it was posted by the progressive website Common Dreams. Never mind that Common Dreams has been right far more often than the Los Angeles Times."
I don't understand that about CD. "The above article" that David Swanson refers to is an excerpt from or copy of a Los Angeles Times article, not one by CD. And CD doesn't really publish articles; it only posts copies of articles from various news media, mostly corporate msm, and views by a considerable number of people writing individually.
And CD just unilaterally decided to censor me by eliminating my account last night for posting the following three links, which I posted only the titles, author names, ... and links for after CD had deleted my separate posts for excerpts from these three articles. None of these articles merit being censored and censoring them is to strike against fundamental human rights and civic duty, the right and duty to critically think and not let our outlooks be molded like putty by others.
"The Northwest Flight 253 Intelligence Failure: Negligence or Conspiracy?"
by Bill Van Auken, wsws.org, Dec 31, 2009
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=16738
"Obama Administration Prepares Public Opinion for Attack on Yemen"
by Patrick Martin, wsws.org, Dec 31, 2009
"Northwest Flight 253: Mounting Evidence of U.S. Complicity in Terrorism"
by Gordon Duff, Veterans Today, Dec 29, 2009
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=16769
There's information in the articles by Bill van Auken and, especially, Gordon Duff that many readers won't like reading and would like to try to prevent other people from learning about, but this is NEVER a valid reason for censoring critical thinking and analysis, which is an essential exercise for anyone wishing to be an ethical and responsible citizen. CD censored these three articles, a post of links to them, after my initial posts providing excerpts. I reposted only the links in case CD's decision had been due to thinking that the excerpts were against copyrights on the original articles, but even the short post consisting of only links, as presented just above this paragraph, was deleted and my account discontinued.
Meanwhile, be sure that I'll still receive CD emails asking for donations, which I definitely would not agree to provide after being unethically censored.
And a lot of articles for views at CD are not worth spending time reading. Too many of them don't provide any real educational content or value. And news articles are from an insufficient number of news media worldwide. There's too much western centrism, say, and what people need is to read from news media worldwide; especially when the western news media of which articles are posted at CD are all or mostly corporate msm news media, which we [know] publishes propaganda of deception, all too often.
Critical thinking requires paying attention to what news media in non-western, imperialist, ... countries also report. And the same applies to views. This is one reason why I like www.globalresearch.ca; just that it unfortunately doesn't have a discussion forum and doesn't provide a comment feature.
So what is it that makes CD "right far more often than the Los Angeles Times" when CD didn't write the article, for the LAT did, and CD wrongly censors links to respectable and important articles? I'm not defending the LAT, but if I post a copy of an article by someone else, then I don't get credit for the article; the author does.
If there any questionable or unpleasant aspects in or to the three articles I included the titles and links for, above, then this is not reason to censor them. Instead, it's then reason to explain what's untrue or otherwise unacceptable in the articles. How can people get education if what they or we say or otherwise present is immediately and unconditionally censored or prohibited without any explanation, or if there's an explanation, but it's flawed? When that happens, real education is then cut short. Open discussion, two-way channels, is how real education must happen; instead of trying to machine-like mold people's minds. Brainwashing, dumbing-down, disinforming, ... people is bad. Real education, which necessarily includes or allows discussion, is what people need; and we can't really discuss without being sufficiently informed on the subject at hand, unless we can easily understand it and can respond based on common sense and critical thought, which we can sometimes do.
Mike Corbeil