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Limbaugh baselessly suggested Downing Street memo "may be a fake"


Media Matters, June 21, 2005

Syndicated radio host Rush Limbaugh suggested that the Downing Street memo "may be a fake" and compared it to the disputed memos used by CBS in its controversial story about President Bush's National Guard service.

From the June 20 broadcast of The Rush Limbaugh Show:

LIMBAUGH: I purposely haven't talked about this Downing Street memo much because, frankly, a) it didn't interest me and, you know, if it doesn't interest me, I'm not going to talk about it. And the reason it didn't interest me is because it was just another one of these ginned up things by the libs, and it looks like it's got some similarities to Bill Burkett and the forged documents of CBS and Rathergate.

Later in the program, Limbaugh responded to a caller's question about the Downing Street memo by saying, "What is it? The Downing Street memo doesn't say anything, and it may be a fake. It may be a forgery."

In fact, multiple news organizations have authenticated the document, which London's Sunday Times first published on May 1. The memo records the minutes of a July 23, 2002, British Cabinet meeting, including British intelligence chief Richard Dearlove's statement that in Washington, "the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy." Since the Downing Street memo's publication, several related British documents have been published, which multiple news outlets have also authenticated.

Limbaugh's assertion appears to be based on claims circulating on the Internet following a June 18 post on the conservative weblog Little Green Footballs. The claims -- which were repeated on another conservative blog, Captain's Quarters, and subsequently linked to by National Review Online's blog, The Corner, and by the Drudge Report -- arose from a June 18 Associated Press article reporting that "[Michael] Smith [the Times reporter who first revealed the memo] told AP he protected the identity of the source he had obtained the documents from by typing copies of them on plain paper and destroying the originals."

But contrary to AP's assertion, Smith has stated publicly that he destroyed copies of the documents and returned the originals. In a June 14 interview with Rawstory.com, Smith described how he first obtained, photocopied, and returned the originals in September 2004. Then, working off of the copies, he reproduced the documents with a typewriter and then destroyed the photocopies (not the originals as the AP reported):

"The copying and re-typing were necessary because markings on the originals might have identified his source, Smith said. ... "The situation in Britain is very difficult but with regard to leaked documents the police Special Branch are obliged to investigate such leaks and would have come to the newspaper's office and or my home to confiscate them," he explained. "We did destroy them because the Police Special Branch were ordered to investigate."

Captain's Quarters concluded that based on this apparently inaccurate AP account, "One fact certainly stands out -- Michael Smith cannot authenticate the copies. And absent that authentication, they lose their value as evidence of anything" (emphasis in original). But the suggestion by conservatives that the documents were forged is baseless, given the multiple news outlets that have authenticated the existence of the memo and related documents.

The Associated Press released excerpts from the memos, including the July 23 memo, on June 18. "The following are excerpts from material in secret Downing Street memos written in 2002. The information, authenticated by a senior British government official, was transcribed from the original documents," the AP wrote.

Similarly, NBC chief foreign affairs correspondent Andrea Mitchell reported June 14 on NBC's Nightly News that "war critics have come up with seven more memos verified by NBC News." A June 13 article by Mitchell on MSNBC.com, published before her report aired on the Nightly News, also noted that the memos were "verified by NBC News."

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Limbaugh is the fake, he is a fake conservative, fake christian, fake defender of constitution, fake fake fake fake. One thing he is not faking is his drug addiction, he is not faking being a hypocrite.

This is the President of the United States who kisses and holds hands with the King of a country whose citizens who brutally and viciously attacked us without warning on 9/11. What a piece of work. Can I call him that?

Don't help publicize liars like Limbaugh or Fox News. The best we can do is ignore them. At least then the resources of independent media is not wasted helping promote these liars. If 1,000 people read this item and one goes on to listen to Limbaugh's radio show, you helped Limbaugh make money. Please don't feed the liars.

RUSH----Big mouth small brain, cooked on drugs!

Brace yourselves, this is just the beginning. We need to deflect this stuff, not let it bring us down, remember what the goal is. Take remarks like Limbaugh's from where they come. Our job as citizens is to continue to "awaken the media", keep the pressure on our representatives, and talk talk talk about the issue. Model ourselves after Congressman Conyers, who effectively makes his point with dignity and professionalism.

Then go into the garage, close the door, and scream the expletives.

Are you kidding me? Conyers is a disgrace. His pretend hearing was a joke, exposing how week he and his fellow socialists are.

Typical Bush apologist response. In the face of irrefutable truth, resort to baseless personal attack. Who's the REAL goofball here?

If the "president" and his minions have nothiing to hide, let them come forward and put us in our place.

Others might take you more seriously if you would learn how to spell.

I am happy Rush is addressing the issue, because as Madonna said "any publicity is good publicity". The issue needs to be banterred about the airwaves, regardless of what is being said about it. The more folks hear about the Downing Street Minutes, eventually the more pressure there will be to get to the bottom of it. I could say that Rush's opinions are the result of dope induced dementia, but I won't because he's actually doing us good and patriotic americans a favor by airing the issue. Tell your congressperson - ACT ON THE RESOLUTION OF INQUIRY! It may be our last chance to save the constitution and our democracy.

I agree with your publicity remark, and would like to add that the more he protests, the more he validates. He starts by saying he hasn't talked about it because it is uninteresting, and then begins a diatribe. Gotta love it.

The Downing Street Memos aren't fake. They do not contain any new informaton and do not paint the Bush administration in a bad light.

They show that Bush wisely decided to take out Saddam's regime and was prudently working with our allies to make it happen.

I wouldn't call it wise to say hundreds of tons of weapons of mass destruction existed in the country when we didn't find any before, during, or after the invasion. I don't think it's wise either to say Saddam Hussein was involved in 9/11 when it was disproven by the 9/11 Commission.

If these documents are fakes, which they aren't.... how does Limbaugh explain the fact that President Bush and British PM Tony Blair acknowledged such a meeting did take place? How can something be made up when it actually happened?

Second Karen is right, if Limbaugh finds the Downing Street Minutes uninteresting, why is he talking about them? He's only going to increase support for the exposure of these documents.

Thirdly Matt, why don't we send you a copy of the Downing Street Minutes you can take back to Free Republic with you? It should make a very interesting read. Conyers did the best he could to bring Downing Street to Capitol Hill. Republicans in the House were afraid that an impeachment of Dubya would be possible, so they wouldn't allow the hearings to be held in the House chamber. Oh also, we want to know the truth about our administration so we're Socialists now? Yeah, that's a very mature attitude.

Tony Blair confirmed the validity of the memo in his comments at a joint press conference with Bush:

President Welcomes British Prime Minister Blair to the White House,
White House Press Conference, June 7, 2005

QUESTION: Thank you, sir. On Iraq, the so-called Downing Street memo from July 2002 says intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy of removing Saddam through military action. Is this an accurate reflection of what happened? Could both of you respond?

PRIME MINISTER BLAIR: Well, I can respond to that very easily. No, the facts were not being fixed in any shape or form at all. And let me remind you that that memorandum was written before we then went to the United Nations. Now, no one knows more intimately the discussions that we were conducting as two countries at the time than me. And the fact is we decided to go to the United Nations and went through that process, which resulted in the November 2002 United Nations resolution, to give a final chance to Saddam Hussein to comply with international law. He didn't do so. And that was the reason why we had to take military action.

But all the way through that period of time, we were trying to look for a way of managing to resolve this without conflict. As it happened, we weren't able to do that because -- as I think was very clear -- there was no way that Saddam Hussein was ever going to change the way that he worked, or the way that he acted.

PRESIDENT BUSH: Well, I -- you know, I read kind of the characterizations of the memo, particularly when they dropped it out in the middle of his race. I'm not sure who "they dropped it out" is, but -- I'm not suggesting that you all dropped it out there. (Laughter.) And somebody said, well, you know, we had made up our mind to go to use military force to deal with Saddam. There's nothing farther from the truth.

My conversation with the Prime Minister was, how could we do this peacefully, what could we do. And this meeting, evidently, that took place in London happened before we even went to the United Nations -- or I went to the United Nations. And so it's -- look, both us of didn't want to use our military. Nobody wants to commit military into combat. It's the last option. The consequences of committing the military are -- are very difficult. The hardest things I do as the President is to try to comfort families who've lost a loved one in combat. It's the last option that the President must have -- and it's the last option I know my friend had, as well. And so we worked hard to see if we could figure out how to do this peacefully, take a -- put a united front up to Saddam Hussein, and say, the world speaks, and he ignored the world. Remember, 1441 passed the Security Council unanimously. He made the decision. And the world is better off without Saddam Hussein in power.

911 Conspiracy
Bush and Buffett Convergence on 911? -- We Demand Some Answers
URL for this page:
http://www.patriotsaints.com/News/911/Conspiracy/Bush/buffett.htm

Oct. 12, 2003
Sterling D. Allan

The report below documents that on the morning of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attack on America, before the attack commenced, the world's second most wealthy man was already at the U.S. Strategic Command headquarters where G.W. Bush flew later that day for "safety." As the attack began, Anne Tatlock was already en route to this same location. She arrived at the base to join Buffet in time to watch the second plane make a direct hit on the tower precisely where her office complex was located.

Strange coincidence?

This smacks too much of a conspiracy and begs to be investigated. What was Buffet, a civilian, doing at a military base? Did Buffet and others of his invite meet with Bush when Bush went there later that day? If they did, what was the nature of their meeting? If they claim to not have met, can they provide sworn affidavits, evidence and witnesses proving that they were elsewhere?

Combined with Bush's blatant negligence earlier in the morning at Booker Elementary, the insinuations of a possible meeting with Buffett are grave indeed. They suggest that President George W. Bush was in on inner workings of the planning and execution of the nations worst terrorist attack. These things insinuate that not only did Bush have prior knowledge of the attack, but he was privy to its purposes and intended outcomes such as the anti-Constitutional Patriot Act and the Iraqi war for more control of the Mideast. At a minimum, it appears he was hanging out with those who did.

This information should be thoroughly investigated and made known to every citizen of the United States and every thinking inhabitant of this planet to awaken them to the awful situation we are in.

I am running for President of the United States to replace this conspiratorial oligarchy that has been usurping the freedoms of the land and installing a global police state. See www.allan2004.com Any of the mainline candidates supported by the establishment will only give you more of the same because they will be controlled by the establishment that runs the show from behind the scenes.

Pass this on to everyone you know. Don't expect to see this covered in this way in the mainstream press. You will see from the date stamps of the various news articles below that this information was published in the mainline press a long time ago, but not pieced together or questioned.

Thank God for the Internet and email. Truth can and will prevail if pains are taken to bring it to light.

America is ripe for a revolution at the ballot, as California has shown us -- except this time without Warren Buffet at its side.

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Documentation
For historic archive purposes, the following is quoted from
http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?disc=149495;article=45228;title=APFN

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Warren Buffet : 911
Sat Oct 11 12:10:39 2003
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10/10/2003

(To link this page, please use the following address: http://www.geocities.com/killtown/buffett.html)

Warren E. Buffett, the world's 2nd richest person.

So where was Warren Buffett the morning of 9/11 and what was he doing?

Of all places, Mr. Buffett just happened to be at the U.S. Strategic Command headquarters located at Offutt Air Force Base in Omaha, Nebraska. Offutt AFB is, coincidentally, where President G.W. Bush flew to on Air Force One later on in the day for "safety". What was Buffett doing there? Mr. Buffett was "hosting a charity event" super early in the morning which included a small group of business leaders in which one of them became a very lucky person.

This person who became very lucky was Ann Tatlock, the CEO of Fiduciary Trust Co. International. Now what made Mrs. Tatlock such a lucky person for being at this event that morning? Mrs. Tatlock works in the World Trade Center and not only that, but her offices were right where Flight 175 crashed into the WTC 2...

► "Anne Tatlock found out about the collision of a plane with the North Tower while en route to the U.S. Strategic Command headquarters in Omaha. The 62-year-old chief executive of Fiduciary Trust Co. International was one of a small group of business leaders at a charity event hosted by Warren Buffett. Military officers boarded the bus she was on, and escorted her to an officer's lounge and a television, just in time to see the second plane hit the South Tower between the 87th and 93rd floors--right where 650 of her employees worked.
Fiduciary, which today manages $44 billion of securities for pension plans, endowments and wealthy individuals..." -Forbes (10/15/01)

► "On the morning of Sept. 11, Tatlock herself had just arrived with a small group of business leaders at Offutt Air Force Base in Omaha for a charity event hosted by Warren Buffett. She then heard the news of the first plane hitting the World Trade Center's north tower.
Moments later, back in Omaha, a television picture flashed on a large screen, and Tatlock witnessed the second plane plowing into the south tower.
"There on the screen, I saw the second plane crash into my office," Tatlock recalled." -San Francisco Business Times (week of 2/04/02)

► "Executives of money-management firm Fiduciary Trust Inc., a unit of Franklin Resources Inc., said many of the 500 employees who worked in the complex had gotten out, but officials didn't have an exact count. "We've been incredibly lucky; people we knew were in there got out," said Anne Tatlock, the firm's chairman and chief executive.
Fiduciary Trust, which occupied five floors that were located high in the South Tower, caters to investors of substantial net worth and used its elegant offices to help woo clients, who often paused to admire the amazing views when they visited.
Ms. Tatlock was in Omaha, Neb., at a conference sponsored by Warren Buffett when she heard about the disaster. "I thought, why would they joke, then I saw the TV," she said. -Wall Street Journal (9/12/01)

► 3:07 p.m. – Bush arrives at U.S. Strategic Command at Offutt Air Force Base in Nebraska. -September11News.com

► The United States Strategic Command, or USSTRATCOM, is headquartered at Offutt Air Force Base, Nebraska.

Now why was the 2nd richest man in the world hosting a charity event so earlier in the morning at the U.S. Strategic Command headquarters that particular day and what are the odds that a CEO was invited who's offices were right where one of the hijacked airplanes crashed into?
Some other questions that arise from this "charity event" is:

1. What was this charity event about?

2. Who were the rest of the business leaders that attended, why were they invited, and who invited them?

An interesting angle about Ann Tatlock's company, Fiduciary Trust Co. International, is that President Bush's nominee to head the panel that's investigating the Sept. 11, 2001 terror attacks, Thomas Kean, used to serve as the company's director which has a lot of wealthy clients...

► President Bush named former New Jersey Gov. Thomas Kean, a moderate Republican with a record of bipartisan cooperation, to replace Henry Kissinger as head of the panel investigating the Sept. 11, 2001 terror attacks.
He serves on several corporate boards, including those of the international petroleum company Amerada Hess Corp., the Pepsi Bottling Group and Aramark Corp., which manages food and support services at office buildings, sports arenas and other facilities.
Aramark ran the food court on top of 2 World Trade Center as well as concessions and tours of the observation deck. Several of its employees died in the tower. Also, Kean has long served as director of Fiduciary Trust Co., a financial company that lost 87 employees in the World Trade Center.
Kristen Breitweiser, whose husband died in the trade center Sept. 11 while working for Fiduciary Trust and who is a leader of September 11th Advocates, said about Kean, "Assuming he has no conflicts, I hope he can do the job that needs to be done."
Breitweiser noted that Fiduciary was a leaseholder of the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which would be part of the investigation. -USA Today (12/16/02)

► BOARD OF DIRECTORS, FIDUCIARY TRUST COMPANY INTERNATIONAL
THOMAS H. KEAN: PRESIDENT, DREW UNIVERSITY AND FORMER GOVERNOR, NJ

► "Ellen Kratzer, an investment advisor who worked near the top of the World Trade Center's south tower, returned to work yesterday morning, at her firm's "business resumption centre" in New Jersey.
More than 100 people are missing from her firm, Fiduciary Trust Co. International, yet she and her colleagues were phoning clients to let them know business is continuing. These are wealthy investors with a lot at stake -- Fiduciary's average client family has more than US$10-million in assets." -Raven Investment (9/15/01)

One interesting note about Ann Tatlock is that she is a trustee of the Howard Hughes Medical Institute (HHMI) along with former Secretary of State and current Carlyle Group advisor James A. Baker III who's law firm, Baker Botts LLP, is defending Saudi Arabia against the trillion dollar lawsuit filed by the families of 9/11 victims. HHMI also employed Don C. Wiley, one of the dozen distinguished microbiologists that have mysteriously died within five months of each other shortly after 9/11.

► "Anne M. Tatlock, chairman and chief executive officer of Fiduciary Trust Company International, has been elected a trustee of the Howard Hughes Medical Institute (HHMI)." -HHMI (1/25/01)
"James A. Baker III, secretary of state under George Bush and secretary of the treasury under Ronald Reagan, has been elected a Trustee of HHMI.
Baker is a senior partner in the law firm of Baker & Botts." -HHMI (2/01/96)

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