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H. Res 505 Fails In House I.R. Committee by 2 Votes!


H Res 505, introduced by Rep. Dennis Kucinich to require the Bush administration to turn over all documents relating to the White House Iraq Group, failed to be reported out of the House International Relations Committee on a 23-25 vote this morning.

H Res 505, which was co-sponsored by 104 House members, picked up two Republican votes from Rep. Jim Leach and Rep. Ron Paul. Two Democratic committee members failed to appear for the vote: Rep. Eni Faleomavaega of American Samoa and Rep. Howard Berman of California's 28th district.

Please contact the following House members to thank them for their extremely hard work on this resolution:

Rep. Dennis Kucinich, (202) 225-5871
Rep. Adam Smith, (202) 225-8901
Rep. Barbara Lee, (202) 225-2661

Please ALSO contact the two Democrats on the committee who failed even to show up for the vote, and ask why this happened:

Rep. Eni Faleomavaega, (202) 225-8577
Rep. Howard Berman, (202) 225-4695

Information about H. Res. 505 and the WHIG

TEXT OF H RES 505:

RESOLUTION
Requesting the President of the United States and directing the Secretary of State to provide to the House of Representatives certain documents in their possession relating to the White House Iraq Group.
Resolved, That the President of the United States is requested and the Secretary of State is directed to provide to the House of Representatives, not later than 14 days after the date of adoption of this resolution--
(1) all documents from 2003 pertaining to the taskforce organized by Andrew Card, consisting of Karl Rove, Karen Hughes, Mary Matalin, Nicholas E. Calio, James R. Wilkinson, Condoleezza Rice, Stephen Hadley and I. Lewis Libby, known as the White House Iraq Group;
(2) all drafts of all white papers on the topic of Iraq's nuclear threat assembled in 2003 by the White House Iraq Group; and
(3) all documents, including notes from meetings, memos, telephone and electronic mail records, logs and calendars, and records of internal discussions in the possession of the President or the Secretary of State relating to the White House Iraq Group.

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So it's the same committee that killed H Res 375. I hope the person who just voted "present" has had time to pay attention to what has been going on. This is really a test of integrity. Are there any decent, old-fashioned Republicans left?

That was congressman Ron Paul.

He was the 1988 Libertarian Party's presidential candidate.As a fellow libertarian, I was perplexed and troubled by his action; he has been a vociferous and consistent opponent of the war in Iraq from the beginning, as well as international interventionism in general,as is consistent with Libertarian principles:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul278.html

http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul283.html

http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul57.html

I intend to e-mail him about this and will look forward to seeing what he does.

If he fails to support the measure,he will have some explaining to do, as this would be highly inconsistent with libertarian principles as he himself expressed them many-a-time.

---The Bikemessenger

Brandon Hughey was a private at Fort Hood when he discovered that his army unit was about to be sent to Iraq. The eighteen-year-old from San Angelo, Texas, was desperate-not because he was afraid to go to war, but because he was convinced that the Iraq war was immoral. He considered solving the problem by taking his own life. Instead, he got in a car and drove to Canada. He explained, "I would fight in an act of defense, if my home and family were in danger. But Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction. They barely had an army left, and [UN Secretary-General] Kofi Annan actually said [attacking Iraq was] a violation of the UN charter. It's nothing more than an act of aggression. You can't go along with a criminal activity just because others are doing it." If, as the Bush administration has maintained, the United States is fighting in Iraq to protect itself from terrorism, free the people of Iraq from tyranny, enforce international law, and bring peace and democracy to the Middle East, then war resisters like Brandon Hughey appear deluded if not cowardly and criminal.

But what if Private Hughey is right? What if the U.S. operation in Iraq is "nothing more than an act of aggression?" What if it indeed constitutes "criminal activity"? What, then, is the culpability of President George W. Bush, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, and other top U.S. officials? And what is the responsibility of ordinary Americans? Until recently, the possibility that top U.S. officials were responsible for war crimes seemed to many Americans nothing but the invidious allegations of a few knee-jerk anti-Americans. But as more and more suppressed photos and documents have been disclosed, and as more and more eyewitness accounts from prisons and battlefields have appeared in the media, Americans are undergoing an agonizing reappraisal of the Iraq war and the broader war on terror of which it is allegedly a part.

War crimes in Iraq and beyond: Read the evidence.

A great source for Bush war crime information:
http://www.bushcommission.org/

Everyone should also read this book review by Thom Hartmann. A real eye opener, I believe, especially for fence-sitters and blind Bush supporters. If you know any of these types, make sure you pass this on to them!

John Perry
http://www.johnperryonline.com

no doubt Mr. immaculately innocent Bill Frist, the hypocritical s.o.b. who should go to prison sometime early in '06, will probably have the nerve to stand up with some other proctology major like Hastert and declare "THIS IS A DEMOCRATIC PLOT TO CRIMINALIZE POLITICS" bleat like they did when DeLay got 'de-layed' by the Grand Jury in Texas.

who's fooling who here? My guess is that the Republican sleazebags in both the Congress and Senate will do everything they can to stymie and derail any meaningful investigation into these criminals who took this nation to war for nothing more than a vendetta and the president's lies and "God Told Me To Invade IRAQ" (before he knew how to spell IRAQ or pronounce it, likely).

what we need is millions of american's in the streets DEMANDING THIS GANG OF MURDERERS get charged with war crimes and prosecuted accordingly.

It might be a little to eairly for that now....lets let the system do it's thing...then if the powers to be...our elected officals, start dragbing this out and make it look like another Whitehouse shamm then we go...like the protest in the 60's over Nam, I was old enough then Im ready now...funny thing...I thought my generation was the generation that wasn't gonna let this happen again...where are all you Freedom/Street fighters of the 60's? You got Your big corporate job's big fast cars, now that your living the good life You don't wanna get involved anymore...what ever happened to "Hell NO, We wont GO!"
We were gonna Hold all our elected officials feet to the fire from then on....Get ready ppl. You just might have to take back your country ageain!

Not for the thousands of Americans and tens of thousands of Iraqis who have suffered death and worse at the hands the gang of murderers, thugs and thieves who inhabit America's highest offices. Shall we all just watch in silent awe as the number of victims grows daily and while the treasury is depleted apace in pursuit of their bloody goals.

What about the victims themselves? How much more "dragbing this out" should they be expected to countenance patiently merely to satisfy your toleration of further machinations by the same totally corrupt system that gave its blessing to this AIPAC-PNAC disaster in the first place. I'm sorry, but attitudes like yours make my blood boil.
__

O nation miserable,
With an untitled tyrant bloody-scepter'd,
When shalt thou see thy wholesome days again.

(Shakespeare - Macbeth, Act IV. Scene III.)

It is going to take waking up the hateful majority who were weened on lies and violence. Bush has at least drawn back the curtain on the lies and we see what our "leaders" have been doing as they speak of liberation.

But now is not the time to give up, or to just sit back and rely on "the system" to take its course.

I can't believe that Americans need lessons from the French on how to wake people up and on making a recalcitrant government sit up and take notice. Sometimes, however, I do think that Americans, having violently rejected kingly powers, are far too placid and respectful of their presidential substitutes. He is, after all, just a man and (allegedly) a public servant -- and, in this case, a very bad example of both.

Arvy: Your argument is unassailable from a moral standpoint:

http://www.smallgov.org/?p=91

But the reality is even many of those who would be inclined to agree are not are not aware or close enough to the gory details to be impressed emotionally and therefore motivated to speak up and take action.

I find it more productive to take any opportunity to enlighten whomever I find to be receptive. I just do what I can and don't allow myself to be distracted by the "Big Picture" that I can only affect to a small and vague, unmeasurable degree.

Ultimately, we can only act as individuals, so that's where we should focus.

---The Bikemessenger

... if the big picture is considered to be a distraction and a moral standpoint less "enlightened" than what others might regard as a more pragmatic alternative. So far as I'm concerned there are already enough amoral options to go around with some immoral ones left over to cover any unforseen gaps.

In any case, I still agree with the original comment that "what we need is millions of American's in the streets demanding this gang of murderers get charged with war crimes and prosecuted accordingly". Responses like let's wait and "let the system do it's [sic] thing" still make my blood boil considering what "the system" has already shown itself capable (and incapable) of doing.

I did'nt mean to imply that to enlighten someone, one needed to cast righteous moral indignation aside.That would be a false dichotomy

But do'nt forget the objective facts are on your side; they're best expressed in calm, rational fashion.

Once you get that across, the indignation just naturally ensues.

With so many hundreds of millions of people on this planet, how could it be otherwise than that one individual's influence is slight and vague?

All I'm suggesting is, rather than focusing on such an immense chasm of orders of magnitude, focus instead on the fact that any one individual, even though it may not be possible to determine that that was the case, may have made a critical difference.

You can't put millions of people in the streets; maybe you can only put two or three. Maybe you can only put one. But that one could be the make-or-break one, you can't know in advance.And you prabably won't be able to tell by hindsight, either.

That's nothing amoral or pragmatic; on the contrary, it's just accepting the concrete, objective reality and the individual's existential position therein.It's the position we're all in and you just have to accept that others aren't always going to do or think as you would have them.

So stop torturing youself for not controlling what you're intrinsically incapable of controlling and stop punishing yourself for not being God.

It's that kind of self-inflicted angst the drives people, over time (in some cases over generations, I would imagine), to buy into centralization and expansion of authority and coercive power into the hands of the few,which brings us back to the beginning of this matter.

---The Bikemessenger

The "objective fact" is that an ongoing war is costing lives and treasure every day. My opinion is that just sitting back and waiting for the same "system" that started it to do its thing is not a solution. I do not agree, morally or otherwise, with such suggestions and I said so.

As for one individual's influence being "slight and vague", if everybody adopted that attitude, there'd be no Cindy Sheehans and the world would be a lot poorer for it.

In any case, that really has nothing to do with my position on this or any other issue. Others express their opinions and I express my own regardless of whether anyone else agrees or not. It's that simple. Your "angst" about "centralization and expansion of authority" has nothing to do with it as far as I'm concerned, but make of it what you will.

Just heard an interview on Diane Rehm Show with Gen. Janet Karpinski.

http://wamu.org/programs/dr/

Remember her? ......the woman sounded very sane to me and it is clear she was used by this criminal administration to sweep the Abu Graib Prison atrocities neatly under the rug.

To this day she has never been contacted by any of her superiors or by any senator to give her side of the story. She even learned of her dismissal for the first time through reporters asking for her comments on it.

This nation is soiled and it is in everyone's interest (Left or Right) to bring justice to everyone accountable all the way up to the White House.

It is NOT ultimately "about" Bush, per se.

It is about the "office" of the President -- IMPEACHMENT of this administration will disinfect that.

It is about the integrity of the U.S. in the world -- a trial at the Hague will take care of that.

And it is also about the integrity of the U.S. military -- court martials and imprisonment of all "higher-ups" responsible will take care of that.

These F----ing Right Wing Republican Family Values Conservative Hypocrites love to use the fist of the LAW, as long as it is being used on "someone else".

We have to keep the Abu Graib story alive and demand accountability.

She was also interviewed by Frontline on PBS. The documentary they did about torture, you can watch the whole documentary on their website.

The dear general also did excellent (and sane and revealing) interviews on this matter for the BBC and CBC in the past too. Kinda funny how it has literally taken years for her to get her story ouit in the face of disinterest by the MSM in the USA. Such a horrible and yet humbling story about the abuse of power! Think archived interviews are available from both the BBC and CBC like the PBS show noted too!

Dear Congressman Paul:

I am writing to ask you to support H. Res. 505, a resolution of inquiry into the White House Iraq Group.

I believe there are just too many questions and too much doubt as to the process that led the American people to accept the invasion of Iraq as justified.

We now know that the assertions upon which this justification was based were false; the President responding by offering us a different rationale.

This is highly suspicious at best.I believe it is incumbent upon congress to investigate the actions taken by this White House committee to build it's case for the invasion.

I wrote to you on Sept. 18th to express my disappointment, as a fellow libertarian who has drawn inspiration from your opposition to the war in Iraq,at your lack of support for a similar measure,(HRES375).

I hope you will support HRES505,as these are matters about which the public needs to be informed.

If you do not support this measure, I'm confident, whether I agree with you or not,that you believe you have good reason.

Given your unique position of leadership in the libertarian movement, what ever you decide, I will look foreward to you expressing your position on this matter.

---Thank You,
Robert Noval

Well, take names of everyone that voted against this today, for was this not an out and out admission of Treason against the US Constitution and the People of the United States? Was it not a admission of loyalty to a corrupt and tyranical administration?

From MY "dated" copy of the US Constitution (1787):

Article III - Section 3
"Treason against the United States, shall consist in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in Open Court."

You can count me in as one of the two required witnesses. ;-)

"Cities full of hatred, fear and lies
Withered hearts and cruel, tormented eyes
Scheming demons dressed in kingly guise
Beating down the multitude and
Scoffing at the wise"
- A Farewell to Kings by Rush

peace.

When I called the offices of the two Democrat "No Shows" to ask why they failed to show up for this VERY important vote (HR-505), I was told that these two congressmen had "no comment" available at this time.

Rep. Eni Faleomavaega, (202) 225-8577
Rep. Howard Berman, (202) 225-4695

Hmm, how many "minimum wage slaves" would get fired from McDonald's or Wal-Mart if they just "didn't show up" for work? How many students would get "zero tolerance suspension" if they just didn't show up for school?

Well, I certainly hope they were doing something IMPORTANT. ;-)

"I meant to do my work today
But the brown bird sang in the apple tree
I know that's why ....
And a butterfly flittered accross the field
And all the leaves were calling me
And the Buttercups nodded their smiling heads
Greeting the bees who came to call
And I asked the lizard the time of day....."
And the wind went sighing over the land,
Tossing the grasses to and fro,
And a rainbow held out its shining handâ€

No suprise to me the repubs are so corrupt they will never let the truth come out...too many of them were involved in all the lies.

Its a sad day when the pres. of the U.S. can lie the country into a war and nothing is done about it.

Somebody said that the "big picture" is too much to ask people to grasp all at once. So let's just deal with a few of the lies and deceptions used to mislead the Congress and the People of the United States of America into an unprovoked, illegal and immoral invasion and occupation of a sovereign nation.

The best summary and timeline I've seen to date relating specifically to the Niger uranium deception is provided by Professor Gary Leupp of Tufts University. Although he calls it "An Incomplete Chronology", it's quite lengthy. Nevertheless, it's well worth reading in full in today's Counterpunch newsletter. The following is just a brief excerpt of his major conclusions.

The inescapable conclusion we must draw is that the Bush administration policy leading into the Iraq War was dominated by officials, grouped under Cheney and Rumsfeld in particular, principally neocons and including Wolfowitz, Libby, Feith, Perle, Abrams, Shulsky, Luti, Bolton, Joseph, Hadley, Wurmser, Franklin, Cambone, Ledeen, Card, Hughes, Rhode, Rove and others who as a matter of policy, and without any moral qualms, deliberately practiced deception to build their case for war. They were not duped by conniving Europeans or badly served by incompetent CIA analysts. They were engaging in "psyops," psychological operations, principally against their own people, whom they needed to delude with the most frightening imagery ("a mushroom cloud") to get their job done.

What was that job? Michael Ledeen, a central figure in the Niger uranium scandal, a sophisticated man who writes elegant prose, sums it up nicely: it requires that "Iran, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, and even Saudi Arabia" be destabilized, and that "every last drooling anti-Semitic and anti-American mullah, imam, sheikh, and ayatollah is either singing the praises of the United States of America, or pumping gasoline, for a dime a gallon, on an American military base near the Arctic Circle." - [Comment: Re-read substituting "drooling anti-Islamic rabbi" for "drooling anti-Semitic mullah" and try to imagine the reaction.]

Now those guilty of deception---of foisting the Straussian "noble lies" upon the American people and the world---are involved in a desperate effort to avoid exposure, alarmed that the conventional workings of the American political system (congressional hearings, special prosecutors' investigations, FBI investigations of espionage, reinvigorated investigative journalism, etc.) might not only jeopardize the project but also land the lot of them in jail. In an effort to make them more nervous, I post this chronology, inviting readers to correct and expand it so that it does the job better.

If you do read Professor Leupp's "incomplete chronology" and wish to contribute additional details or suggestions, he can be reached at Tufts University by email.
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O nation miserable,
With an untitled tyrant bloody-scepter'd,
When shalt thou see thy wholesome days again.

(Shakespeare - Macbeth, Act IV. Scene III.)

Yet more proof that the time has come for all citizens of the world to shun the United States completely and entirely. In the near future, I see no hope for you. It is heart-breaking to have to say these things because, clearly, many of you are very well intentioned and recognise the atrocities which are being perpetrated in your name. However, the facts do seem to be that a criminal Administration rules the roost and there is no effective opposition. Worldwide the names Berman and Faleomavaega now stand for shame. Do these Representatives not understand that across the globe millions need to have their faith in your country restored? It is vital that justice be seen to prevail. It is vital that those responsible for crimes against humanity be identified and held to account.

It is a sad day when a nation which might have stood has a beacon is better known for its aggression, its abuse of power, its efforts to legitimize its own use of torture.

I travel the world enough to know that people everywhere are mystified. How is it that your former President could be impeached for a sexual dalliance but his successor escapes scott free having lied his way into a war of aggression? In every part of the world I visit people are scratching their heads unable to understand your system. Evidently, it is a system which deeply flawed. This is why so many of us are horrified to see you foisting it on other nations.

So long as this state of affairs prevails the United States will have zero credibility on the world stage. Why, oh why, is it taking so long?

Michael

"In every part of the world I visit people are scratching their heads unable to understand your system. Evidently, it is a system which (is) deeply flawed. This is why so many of us are horrified to see you foisting it on other nations."

Michael, there are many of us that are mystified by ourselves! How did we get so duped (I speak for myself the first election, certainly not the second). Some of us had no idea that "the elite" in America really consider themselves "superior" and the rest of us as mere peasants, and even less. People like Bush & Cheney and their cabal have gone beyond "social class snobbery" (which is evil enuf). They have pushed the envelope into an even more insidious and repulsive area of their psyche that has enabled them to actually de-humanize the average American and world citizen. In the end, it makes these PNAC thugs the real animals.

GOOGLE PNAC > "OUT" THE CABAL !!!

Tonight I write with a heavy heart. This government will be compared in history to the natzi's. Bush's Grand Father was in fact the motivator for the natzi's war machine. The apple does not fallfar from the tree. Why are we not concerned about the budget cuts that will take every thing away from all this population, the ripple will hurt all of America. Why are we allowing this government to bully us. We are the government! Today I read that we used white phospherous on the people in Iraq! This is not America, this is not my country, we do not condone torture and we do not let people die on over passes waiting for food and water. This government is evil.

Tonight I write with a heavy heart. This government will be compared in history to the natzi's. Bush's Grand Father was in fact the motivator for the natzi's war machine. The apple does not fallfar from the tree. Why are we not concerned about the budget cuts that will take every thing away from all this population, the ripple will hurt all of America. Why are we allowing this government to bully us. We are the government! Today I read that we used white phospherous on the people in Iraq! This is not America, this is not my country, we do not condone torture and we do not let people die on over passes waiting for food and water. This government is evil.

What's wrong with those two assholes who didn't show up for the democrat's vote?!! They need their asses kicked big time; to be publicly called out for what they are--(two) two bit phonies pretending to represent the American people--and they need to be booted out of the House. WE WANT OUR REPESENTATIVES ON THE JOB, or to go back selling vacuum cleaners that suck worse than they do.

There are no excuses for these dipshits. Regarding the guy from Samoa, Eni Faleomavaega, his real name is weenie. He's lucky we let his country be an official "territory" of the US, where he could represent them in Congress, then he turns his back on his responsibilities. He doesn't deserve the priviledge. The other guy Berman needs to be exposed for the snake he is.

Needless to say their names are cut and pasted on the list of who to VOTE OUT in the next election.

Well this is life in the real world. I am disappointed. The question that I have is where do we go from here? In my state we have a Democrat Jeff Bingaman who originally supported the war in Iraq and now claims not to and Pete Dominici who will support Bush no matter what.

How can I do my part to help move this thing forward?

Richard Norton

Does anyone have the list of who voted and how they voted? That would be good to know.

probably the same a_ _hole who took a baseball bat to the staffer investigating Abramoff. These republican scum are running scared, and now it's showing. I bet there's a money trail into these two rep's bank accounts if not now, shortly....or paid in cash. too bad they can't be surveilled to see who they are paid off by.

I know there have been more comments then 24! Where are they?

A great source for Bush war crime information:
http://www.bushcommission.org/

Everyone should also read this book review by Thom Hartmann:
http://www.buzzflash.com/hartmann/05/11/har05011.html

A real eye opener, I believe, especially for fence-sitters and blind Bush supporters. If you know any of these types, make sure you pass this on to them!

John Perry
http://www.johnperryonline.com

Faleomavaega has no email. Not even a website form. You can leave a message if you call, however. I emailed Berman through his site. Please feel free to copy and/or edit this message for your own use.

Representative Berman:

I'm just wondering why you failed to show up for the very important vote regarding H. Res 505, which called for the White House to turn over all documents pertaining to the White House Iraq Group. The WHIG is the Bush administration's not- so-secret effort to market the unconstitutional, unnecessary, illegal, immoral invasion and occupation of Iraq to the American people.

The resolution failed in committee by two votes.

Mr Berman, what's happening in the peoples' White House and on Capitol Hill is, quite simply, disgusting. The effort to determine beyond any doubt whether or not the Bush administration lied to Congress and the people to build support for the invasion of Iraq is being derailed, apparently by people who are determined to keep the truth hidden.

It is incomprehensible that someone like yourself, elected to serve the people, would betray the peoples' trust by failing to even appear for such a critical vote.

If there is a good reason, you are duty-bound to provide it.

The majority of Americans now believes George W. Bush intentionally misled congress and the people to gain support for his war of choice. The VAST majority of Americans DISAPPROVES of the overall job this president is doing.

We want to know the truth, Representative Berman. If you are unwilling to assist us in this endeavor, you should step aside to make room for a TRUE public servant.

John Perry
http://www.johnperryonline.com

Dear John Perry,

You are out of touch. Left biased skewed polls show what the media WANTS to be the truth. Much like EVERY OTHER attempt at making this adminsitration look bad it will fail. The reason the government does not want to release this info is because they can't release everything to the public. That is just ridiculous and stupid. Plus, who knows what can that will open up on the Left side of the spectrum???? Clinton and many other Left wing freaks made open comments on this same information long before W was in office. What about that information? Why are you not asking them for answers on "lying" to the American people????? What about Kennedy, Kerry, Reid, Clinton?????? Why are you not asking them about their information?????? I know you will say, "Well, they didn't bring us to war." So what they are much like the French...WEAK!!!! But have big mouths...

You people are a bunch of hypocrits. Yourmedia lies to you everyday and you just buy into it. And we are the sheep of the PNAC???? It is funny to me and many others. We actually see the writing on the wall.

These elections on Tuesday proved NOTHING as many of the seats were won by the incumbent. These same democrats won when W's apporval rating was in the 70-80's back in 2001. So to the Right they mean VERY little but I guess you need to get excited about SOMETHING? Well, enjoy it...

Now I would like to talk to you weaklings about France. I would love for any of you to defend your prior stance about why we should listen to France about how to handle the Iraq situation? These pu$$ies can't even manage their own country let alone a situation elsewhere. France is weak and has been for Centuries. Well, when these Islamic Radicals decide to take the country over I sure hope we sit back and watch them cower and BEG for our help. The France...

I really love you guys. You keep my beleifs strong and my mind sharp.

With love and compassion,

Richie "The Right Wing Kook" Rich

But save some of that compassion for yourself. Your need is much greater than ours and will not abate in the days ahead.
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"We do not torture." -- George W Bush
"I am not a crook." -- Richard M Nixon
"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator." -- Adolph Hitler

You're the one being fooled if you think the media is just trying to make Bush look bad. He has done a great job of that all by himself. If they were truly liberally biased, instead of just a bunch of spineless pseudo journalists who happen to get it right on occasion, they would be twisting the truth and telling outright lies on a regular basis, just like Bush, Cheney, Libby, Rumsfeld, Rice, McClellan, Frist, Limbaugh, Hannity, Malkin, and all the other lying righty bastards.

Clinton, Kerry, Kennedy, Reid, the French and what happened on election day this week are not relevant to the question of whether or not the Bushies lied to Congress and the American people to gain support for their bogus war.

That's what we want to know.

Nobody is asking for the release of "everything to the public". All we want is a legitimate investigation into whether or not American kids and innocent Iraqis are dying and hundreds of billions of our tax dollars are being wasted for a bunch of lies.

If all you can do is bitch about Democrats (which I am not, by the way) and France when you get nailed with legitimate criticism of your pathetic farce of a president and his criminal administration, you're pretty fucking hopeless.

I wish I could reciprocate your "love and compassion", but I unfortunately have only pity for you.

John Perry
http://www.johnperryonline.com

and yet you consider your beliefs strong and your mind sharp?
Now I know for sure you are just playin' the fool!

GOOGLE PNAC> "OUT" THE CABAL !!!

There is wide agreement that Rep. Eni Faleomavaega of American Samoa and Rep. Howard Berman of California's 28th district likely got PAID OFF to throw their vote. The other side will stoop to anything. Someone ought to LOOK INTO THAT.

Shows how we get stiffed by countries we try to help. Samoa has little if no stake in our problems with the current administration. The number of soldiers lost from Samoa is scant, if any, and anything Samoa gets from the US is way better than what they started with. Those "territories" are only interested in what we can do for them and to "get" what they can, and have no loyalty to the US. No wonder that the other side seen "weenie" Eni Faleomavaega as a weak link to be exploited in the critical HR 505 vote. Berman is in the same category.

At the least these two duds should be PROMPTLY REMOVED from the House International Relations Committee for deriliction of duty, lack of due diligence, negligence, and a sham representation--to prevent their fouling up anything else that may fall into their hands.

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