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We need to force Obama's hand - start Impeachment procedures for his failure to investigate torture further.

Defying both the defense of our constitutional requirement for trying those who break the law and international treaties prohibiting torture, President Obama has stepped off the deep end. He is now COMPLICIT with the torture perpetrated by those in the Bush-Cheney administration. It matters not that his heart is in the right place, seeing as he has banned torture under his administration. He has the RESPONSIBILITY to bring to justice (begun by a thorough investigation) those who committed high crimes and misdemeanors.

If he maintains his position that he will not attempt to investigate further, then HE MUST HIMSELF BE IMPEACHED.

Sorry, as much as I know he has a slew of wonderful ideas backed up by effective action in terms of our new social and political directions, THIS SHIRKING OF RESPONSIBILITY is unforgivable. He must know that WE THE PEOPLE are serious about his fulfilling his responsibilities. If it takes impeachment charges to bring that home to him - so be it. - - - We WILL be heard.

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It has been tried on Pelosi on this site , and calling Conyers "a traitor" was all the rage for awhile. It is distracting going after the people who you want to go after the ACTUAL people who are the war criminals who perpetrated this mess in Iraq and in Gitmo. In order to accomplish Prosecution of Bush and Cheney Et Al we gotta remain focused, and stand in solidarity on this real task.

ARREST BUSHCO & RICO PNAC/FARA AIPAC...PNAC is Bush/Cheney's "Helter Skelter" !

and should be tried as well.

ann r. kist

The members of AfterDowningStreet have him under scrutiny. Waterboarding is torture. When our government tortures they are doing it in my name and I do not like that. Neither do I appreciate drones killing women and children.


"EVERY gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed."--President Dwight D. Eisenhower, April 16, 1953

Over the past decades there has been a strong tide of doing things the most "politically effective way". This "getting something accomplished" approach has become very attractive. And for good reason. Why wouldn't anyone want to at least "accomplish" something?

However, the positives of this approach have been counterbalanced, especially during the Bush-Cheney years, by a concurrent loss of a sense of principle. This has been illustrated very powerfully by the failures of Pelosi and Reid in the Congress. Sure, getting at least a small step accomplished has some merit - but when placed against sacrifices of principle and the very shredding of our constitutional base, that accomplishment shrivels like insignificant dried dust. Even if it eventually bears some fruit, it has been at a very, very high cost - often of giving up vital parts of our very identity as a people.

There's a reason why quotes by Jefferson, Lincoln, T. Roosevelt, FDR, Eisenhower and Kennedy are referred to so often in the political spectrum (and beyond of course). They took PRINCIPLED stands on various issues that FLEW IN THE FACE of getting something accomplished for the sake of chalking up a small step. There are times when we need to take BIG steps. Following the horrors done to our government and our people (not to mention the rest of the world) by Bush, Cheney, et al, THIS is one of those times.

Since I wrote my original message it seems Obama heard our outcry, and has agreed to consider investigations of the perpetrators. We need to maintain our outcry to make sure that the type of investigation chosen is a meaningful one, with real teeth to it. We definitely don't need some copy of the 9/11 commission, which was nothing more than a political whitewash job.

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