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KUCINICH: MARKET FALLS AGAIN


By davidswanson - Posted on 06 October 2008

Country Needs to Save Homes and Jobs, No More Bailouts

Washington D.C. (October 6, 2008) -- Congressman Dennis Kucinich, (D-OH), who is one of the leaders challenging the $700 billion bailout of Wall Street, said that in light of the continued decline of the stock market, the lack of meaningful protections for homeowners and the likely collapse of additional mortgage backed securities such as Alt-A loans, that Wall Street might seek additional bailout funds.

“Think about it. Congress passed a $700 billion bailout and the market is continuing to plunge! At 3 p.m., the market was down close to 700 points. Already economists and the news media indicate that the $700 billion bailout passed on Friday is not enough,” stated Kucinich.

“If Wall Street does come back for another bailout, we must be prepared in advance to say NO,” stated Kucinich. “The bailouts of Wall Street must stop. It will never be enough. When the Federal Government gets involved in picking winners and losers on Wall Street, we open up a financial whirlpool of insatiable greed,” he said.

“The fundamental problem that led to the credit crisis is that millions of homeowners are in jeopardy, and millions of people are out of work. Congress rushed to bail out Wall Street but sits on its hands when millions of homeowners are at risk,” he said. “The only way to prevent another bailout is to take action which will directly impact the market stress at its root - - the millions of homeowners who face default on their mortgages. This is the path toward market stabilization,” he said.

Kucinich has persistently advocated legislation that would give the government controlling interest in mortgage backed securities to “help homeowners save their homes by working out their payments, through restructuring the principal and the interest rate on their loans.”

“We are now facing the perfect financial storm. The elements are the deficit spending for the war of 3 to 4 trillion dollars, the trillion more in tax cuts, the war itself, the lack of serious investment in our country and now $700 billion to Wall Street. We are being hollowed out. We are going to see more unemployment and more people losing there homes. With $700 billion we could have made a real investment in the country, in jobs, in infrastructure and in homes. Now we must invest in homeowners to prevent any additional bailout,” add Kucinich.

Kucinich said he is preparing a bill, which will “prime the pump of the economy through helping people save their homes while putting millions of people back to work.”

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Let's not forget obama and pelosi pushed this garbage down the American throat!

HAD ENOUGH OF THESE CORRUPT LYING DEMASSES THAT KISS BIG BUSH BUTT???

VOTE GREEN PARTY!

McCain will tell you he does not give a damn about YOU. He is only concerned with wall street. At least he is up front!

Obama and pelosi is lying to the people while kissing BIG bush butt! Does this sound like 2006 all over again! WAKE UP YOU DUMB ASS AMERICANS!!!

NO MORE OBAMA AND PELOSI LIES AND BUSH BUTT KISSING!

Vote GREEN PARTY OR SUFFER!!

You think you know suffering? You don't know the half of it yet. "McCain makes Cheney look like Ghandi."
McCain will do THE DRAFT. Then these Greens won't be so green anymore, you'll grow up fast in a foxhole.

IMPEACH BUSHCO & RICO PNAC/AIPAC...PNAC is Bush/Cheney's "Helter Skelter" !

WE MUST DEFEAT MCCAIN!!!

More illogical B.S. from yankhadenuf!

Al k.

www.votenader.org

WE MUST DEFEAT MCCAIN and OBAMA!!!

All Obama, all the time.

Nothing but Obama.

Obama will save us!

Grow up. What has he "saved" so far? The FISA Bill and the Paulson Looting! That is what Obama "saved".

A draft? That would be great! then everyone would focus on the war and it would be over becasue middle class kids would be going too, not just the poor.

That would be very helpful actually. Oh, unless of course you are a Middle aged, Middle Class housewife with sons of drafting age... then I can see your point.

Willyloman, I am a grown up, and my flesh and blood has disability, so you don't understand (or care to find out) the difference between Mccain and Obama on that regard, its a GRAND CANYON, no actually, Mccain is in a blackhole when it comes to disability rights and entitlements. He simply wants the rich to have tax cuts. That's it. That is Mccain's ONE NOTE SONG> Tax cuts for the rich and corporations.

And you and your children won't grow up if there is a DRAFT.

IMPEACH BUSHCO & RICO PNAC/AIPAC...PNAC is Bush/Cheney's "Helter Skelter" !

NO SPOILERS, PERIOD > WE MUST DEFEAT MCCAIN!!!

Now we know why yankhadenuf has such a hatred of McCain. "my flesh and blood has disability". You have my sympathy, but you must not let the injustice you feel cloud your judgment. To think that stopping ONE MAN with ANYBODY who you think is capable of it, for that reason alone, is going to solve all our problems just because you hate him is not justified! Use your mind, not your gut reactions to further your (and our) situation!

Al K.

www.votenader.org

If you don't hate Neoconism, WHY ARE YOU HERE???

IMPEACH BUSHCO & RICO PNAC/AIPAC...PNAC is Bush/Cheney's "Helter Skelter" !

NO SPOILERS PERIOD > WE MUST DEFEAT MCCAIN!!!

"If you don't hate Neoconism, WHY ARE YOU HERE???"

I don't profess to HATE anyone. My reason for being here is FEAR about what is coming of we continue down the same corporate backed and financed path! I use that fear to try to move in a positive direction. Others use it to further their own agenda. In your case, it seems to be hatred. You hate McCain. This is for good reason, you are just not thinking clearly about the solution.

Al k.

You don't hate a philosophy that mass murders people and uses our soldiers as pawns??? You don't empathize with a suffering world then. If you do not comprehend the evil that Mccain represents and the Bush/Cheney Administration that he will continue, and then some, then you need to put your research hat on before you can discuss the threat of continued Neoconism intelligently. You've already committed your vote for a known loser, so I seriously question the judgement and knowledge of "Green" voters. I'm seeing cultish and brainwashed patterns of thinking, not logical discourse based on empirical facts. I now view the Green voters in general as cultish not logical. To say that by your willingness to throw away your vote is "free speech" for Nader, sounds more like you worship Nader, that you've drunk his Kool-Aid. It sounds like you will give up your free speech and your vote as a SACRIFICE FOR Nader!!! What else are you willing to GIVE UP FOR NADER??? It does not sound like you want to spare our country , and the world itself, from anymore Neoconism (the most hatefilled murderous philosophy on the planet right now). Voting for a loser , no Al, I don't get it. We need a WINNER right now, that's why I'm voting for Barack Obama.

IMPEACH BUSHCO & RICO PNAC/AIPAC...PNAC is Bush/Cheney's "Helter Skelter" !

NO SPOILERS, PERIOD > WE MUST DEFEAT MCCAIN!!!

Yank,

Your right, you don't get it! No, I do not HATE what is going on. I FEAR where it is leading us! This is why I am on here screaming my head off for true change. The problem is that Obama is not a winner for us but a winner for the corporations that back him. He is business as usual! What we need is to stop this continued march toward disaster. Obama is a Democrat. It's the Democrats and Republicans that have put us on this course. They will continue to do what they have always done! Obama will change nothing! In fact he may just lull people like you into a false sense of security that may allow things to get worse.

Al k.

www.votenader.org

Listen , Al, do you hear it??? The landslide for Obama will be so great, like a tsunami of votes , that nothing can stop it this time, not even anything Ralph Nader can do can stop it! Neocons will be gone !

IMPEACH BUSHCO & RICO PNAC/AIPAC...PNAC is Bush/Cheney's "Helter Skelter" !

NO SPOILERS , PERIOD > WE MUST DEFEAT MCCAIN!!!

...but what you refuse to grasp here is that this election is already predetermined. The fix is already in.

Read the reports. Read the news articles. They come out daily now. hell there is one today about changes to Florida voting laws that will keep 'certain people" from casting votes.

I hate to be the one to tell you this, but you don't live in a democracy anymore Yank.

And the sooner you understand that, the better off we will ALL be.

You see what you are doing is playing right into their hands.

When the exit polls don't match the results, you will blame "racist democrats" just like they want you to.

When the election is close and the numbers seem screwed up, you will blame Nader like you did in 2004 rather than the real culprits.

One of the guys who worked for Diebold has come out as a whistle blower and said there are "vote flipping" programs out there.

That means the more people you get to go out and vote for Obama...the more votes McCain gets.

This is the problem, Yank. Not increasing voter registration rolls. Do you understand?

They are not going to hand over their fascist fantasyland to "the people" for something as silly as a 'vote". Especially after they have stolen the last two.

You don't live in a democracy anymore Yank. I am telling you this as respectfully as I can. I am not demeaning you or lying to you. I am not a troll or some kind of plant trying to demoralize you. Put all that aside.

Vote. By all means, vote! But work. Work and understand that it will take more than an electronic voting machine for us to get this back to hand over to our kids.

I am sorry you are disabled. I mean that. I bare you no ill will.

You are motivated and passionate and inteligent. But you don't want to see. I want you to see, Yank, because then you can help.

Vote how you want. Tell others to vote how you want. I don't care. Just remember, in the end, it wasn't Nader or mcKinney... it was something else entirely that took this away from us.

And when it is all over, I hope that is where your anger and your attention will be focused.

You've bullied me away before with your lies and slander before , and you and Al think you can bully me again. I don't give a damn about Ralph Nader's super ego, I really don't . I don't give a damn about a Green cult that could spoil the White House AGAIN. Ralph Nader does NOT speak for me if he is going to LOSE the White House to the Neocons AGAIN. I will NEVER forgive Ralph Nader if that happens again, mark my words. Please keep Ralph Nader, LOSER TO THE NEOCONS, out of Florida!!!

IMPEACH BUSHCO & RICO PNAC/AIPAC...PNAC is Bush/Cheney's "Helter Skelter" !

NO SPOILERS, PERIOD > WE MUST DEFEAT MCCAIN!!!

...and you return spite and hostility.

I guess that about says it all, doesn't it? And that stuff I put up before about you weren't lies and slander... they were facts about how you have done this same kind of thing at another site.

I posted links and proved what I was saying.

If you would like, I can repost all that stuff so that people know I don't lie and slander people.

Or, you can just go on about your business here, and I can go on about mine, and we can let each other be.

Your choice. Don't accuse me of lying again or I will be forced to show these people what it is you are talking about in order to show them I am not lying. I would reccomend you let it go.

Any "decency" you've ever shown me has always turned out to be all a phoney ploy. I will not capitulate and kowtow to you . I will vote these Neocons OUT!!! Nothing , and I mean NOTHING, you say or threaten me with will ever change my mind.

IMPEACH BUSHCO & RICO PNAC/AIPAC...PNAC is Bush/Cheney's "Helter Skelter" !

NO SPOILERS, PERIOD > WE MUST DEFEAT MCCAIN !!!

... if that is how you read it, I can't help that. I tried.

Good luck with that "voting thing". Let me know how it works out for you.

In the meantime, I and others will be looking into other options, if that is ok with you?

I'll do just fine, thank you very much. Hey, your losing option, your loss of your vote. Just don't shove your losing propositions down our throats anymore. Our nation cannot survive another spoiled election.

IMPEACH BUSHCO & RICO PNAC/AIPAC...PNAC is Bush/Cheney's "Helter Skelter" !

NO SPOILERS, PERIOD > WE MUST DEFEAT MCCAIN!!!

Yank,

"Just don't shove your losing propositions down our throats anymore"

Who's doing the shoving? "NO SPOILERS, PERIOD". Just shove all the "spoilers" off the ballot instead. We don't dare spoil anther election by allowing debate by third parties. Just vote for Obama because I say so! He's got ALL the answers. Good debate by the third party movement will defeat McCain big time if you would let it happen! The debate is being suppressed because the two parties are the same and good logic scares them both to death. They can't handle it.

Al k.

www.votenader.org

Spoilers can't shove majority around anymore !

IMPEACH BUSHCO & RICO PNAC/AIPAC...PNAC is Bush/Cheney's "Helter Skelter" !

NO SPOILERS , PERIOD > WE MUST DEFEAT MCCAIN!!!

Cynthia Mckinney of the GREEN PARTY is the only party that will prosecute these criminals not that suck butt obama and pelosi!

Cindy must beat pelosi!

Obama and the demasses are liars. Think back to 2006. They lied to you THEN and they will no doubt do it again.

If you dumbass americans vote for obama/bush/sellout you deserve what you get, more lies, war, DEATH and theft from the american tax payers.

McCain is for wall street and will admit it! He will also admit he does not give a damn about you. At leat he is up front!

obama is loyal to bush and only to bush not the american public just like pelosi! I REFER YOU TO THE RECENT RAPE OF AMERICA OBAMA CALLED A BAILOUT! WAKE UP AMERICA!

THERE IS NO QUESTION OBAMA AND THE BLUE DOG DEMASSES WILL START A DRAFT JUST TO PLEASE HIS MASTERS (no not we the people)!

Immaturity is not progressive. You cannot progress if the Green Party cannot win the White House. You cannot win if you throw your votes away to Mccain. The Green Party has a chance to progress and grow AFTER we throw these Neocon bums OUT forever and for the good of ALL.

IMPEACH BUSHCO & RICO PNAC/AIPAC...PNAC is Bush/Cheney's "Helter Skelter" !

NO SPOILERS , PERIOD > WE MUST DEFEAT MCCAIN!!!

"Immaturity is not progressive". "NO SPOILERS , PERIOD". I suppose the forced removal of every third party candidate he/she calls a "Spoiler" from the ballots is "progressive". Joseph Stalin, Saddam and Adolph Hitler would agree 100%

Al K.

www.votenader.org

You've made it clear , Al, that your vote is just for a LOSER ! You've made it clear you want to influence the rest of us to throw away our votes like you. I guess misery loves company. The majority of us want to vote the Neocons OUT, we want to WIN the White House BACK. Your Green Cult could stop this objective. If that is Nader's objective, I want no part of the Green Party, now or in the future . It is not FOR THE PEOPLE, it is for Nader's ego.

IMPEACH BUSHCO & RICO PNAC/AIPAC...PNAC is Bush/Cheney's "Helter Skelter" !

WE MUST DEFEAT MCCAIN!!!

GROW THE FUCK UP?!

You act like your wrangling means a fucking thing in a rigged fucking system! Vote your conscience and let the shit hit the fan as it will.

to rid ourselves of Neocons for good, VOTE OBAMA ! :o)

IMPEACH BUSHCO & RICO PNAC/AIPAC...PNAC is Bush/Cheney's "Helter Skelter" !

NO SPOILERS, PERIOD > WE MUST DEFEAT MCCAIN!!!

uh, I vote for R.A. Brown and his "Grow the Fuck Up" campaign. Just vote how you want and then after they steal this election as well, you can blame Nader supporters for the next 4 years if you like.

We got other problems we have to solve.

The rest of us will vote these Neocons OUT. I have no intention of following you over the cliff.

IMPEACH BUSHCO & RICO PNAC/AIPAC...PNAC is Bush/Cheney's "Helter Skelter" !

NO SPOILERS, PERIOD > WE MUST DEFEAT MCCAIN!!!

same note. thanks for sharing. gotta run. buh bye.

Vote the Neocon bums OUT!!!

IMPEACH BUSHCO & RICO PNAC/AIPAC...PNAC is Bush/Cheney's "Helter Skelter" !

NO SPOILERS, PERIOD > WE MUST DEFEAT MCCAIN!!!

thaks but no thanks. I'm voting for Santa Claus or Jesus...some other fictional character of faith...

Obama's new campaign slogan just came out!

"Hope! Don't act...Just Hope!"

Nader has a record for losing and spoiling for the Neocons, TWICE. Want a THIRD McBush term? No!!!

IMPEACH BUSHCO & RICO PNAC/AIPAC...PNAC is Bush/Cheney's "Helter Skelter" !

NO SPOILERS, PERIOD > WE MUST DEFEAT MCCAIN!!!

Yank,
"Al, that your vote is just for a LOSER, Al, that your vote is just for a LOSER."
**Here's another Looser: Richard Nixon. He lost to JFK. He ran again and won.
Nader is NOT a looser. He is a "victim". YOUR victim and the victim of other people who will vote for the lesser of two evils no matter what!
Nader is working for YOU, just like all the other candidates you call "spoilers". Your kind of thinking is screwing them, yourself and the chance for REAL change! Besides, what's wrong with voting for a looser? Am I going to that little room in hell for voters who jumped on the loosing candidates band wagon? I don't mind supporting a looser if he reflects my thinking!

"You've made it clear you want to influence the rest of us to throw away our votes like you."
** It sounds more like you want me to throw away my vote like you by voting for the same old crap.

"It is not FOR THE PEOPLE, it is for Nader's ego".
**If Nader has an ego, so what? It is NOT important! What he advocates and works for. THAT is what is important. Did you ever see an political candidate that didn't have an ego? He wouldn't get very far, would he?

Al k.

www.votenader.org

I don't care about Nader playing the "victim card" anymore than he cares about WE THE PEOPLE. If Nader is a "victim" and a loser, then why waste votes on him? I do not vote for egos or losers, I vote for ISSUES. The issue here is, get this Neocon Agenda OUT of the White House, restore it FOR THE PEOPLE

IMPEACH BUSHCO & RICO PNAC/AIPAC...PNAC is Bush/Cheney's "Helter Skelter" !

NO MORE SPOILERS, PERIOD > WE MUST DEFEAT MCCAIN!!!

Yank,

Your aren't a winner or a victim. Your are a narrow minded dope who is getting hammered by nearly everyone here. You just won't see it! I don't mean that as a personal attack. Doing that serves no purpose. That's just how it looks. You are digging yourself into a huge hole. Stop digging!

Al k.

www.votenader.org

Your loser's "message" is of no consequence anymore, and can do no harm to elections or the American people's will any longer.

We are all the winners now that the Neocons will be over!

IMPEACH BUSHCO & RICO PNAC/AIPAC...PNAC is Bush/Cheney's "Helter Skelter" !

NO SPOILERS, PERIOD > WE MUST DEFEAT MCCAIN!!!

Yank,

Wrong again. I'm not mad. I am deeply depressed that so many people think that the people that got us into this mess will get us out. It's not going to happen. You see, I alternate between depression, where I am now, then fear. Fear leads me back to trying to do something about it. Then back to depression.

Nader and the other 3rd parties are not the losers. We are!

No spoilers, period = No debate, period = no chance to hear anything but what the two big corporate stooge parties want us to hear.

No impeachment.
No health care reform.
No exit from Iraq.
No exit from $700 Billion giveaway to Wall St.
No end in sight to the saber-rattling against Iran.
No reduction in the burning of fossil fuels.
No end to the HUGE expenditures on the military.

We are SOOOOOooooo screwed!

Al k.

www.votenader.org

Hey, here's a thought, since there must be "NO SPOILERS , PERIOD". Let's remove yankhadenuf from ever posting comments here. She is definitely "spoiling" Ralph Nader and the Green party's chances at being elected. Well, I would like to, but that would be denying her her right of free speech. Her illogical comments actually do us a service because they give us all the opportunity to illustrate how a narrow mind operates. To remove her, and all the other "spoilers", is kind of like flag burning. You destroy the symbol of what it is that preserves your very right to burn that flag in the first place. Our constitution! This is why you can not outlaw flag burning!

We have to remove all "spoilers" from all the ballots because they stand in the way of HER candidate getting elected. "We must defeat McCain" at all cost even if it means doing it with a guy who will do the same things McCain would do. Obama voted FOR the FISA cop-out bill allowing warrant-less wiretapping. He voted FOR the Wall St. bailout and all sorts of other corporate backed legislation! He continues the saber-rattling against Iran. He will NOT get us out of Iraq. Those are EXACTLY McCain's positions! Democrats and Republicans are two sides of the same coin. McCain is simply the hothead and scatterbrain side of the coin!

Keep it up yankhadenuf. Without your kind of silly thinking to debate more logical thinking would never have a chance to be presented!

We must defeat the business-as-usual candidates, not just McCain! We must stop the corporate rule strangling all of us. Obama and McCain are BOTH part of that strangle hold.

Al K.

www.votenader.org

All I hear from you is VOTE FOR A LOSER. You want to promote losing and silence the votes that can defeat the Neocons. What IS YOUR TRUE OBJECTIVE HERE, Al? You've made it clear that Ralph Nader is not running to be in the White House, you've made it clear you are voting for LOSER.

So who do you want to WIN? What is your purpose of convincing us to throw our votes away on a LOSER? Why is being defeated by the Neocons AGAIN "free speech"? I am not voting for Ralph Nader's "free speech" , I am voting for MINE.

IMPEACH BUSHCO & RICO PNAC/AIPAC...PNAC is Bush/Cheney's "Helter Skelter" !

NO SPOILERS, PERIOD > WE MUST DEFEAT MCCAIN!!!

"All I hear from you is VOTE FOR A LOSER"
** All I hear from YOU is screw everybody who is a spoiler".

"So who do you want to WIN?"
What you can't seem to understand is the we BOTH want to win the same thing! You are just advocating a side-step rather than a step forward!

This reminds me of the election between George Bush 1 and Bill Clinton. I used to vote the party line (Democrat - shame on me!) and voted for Clinton. When he won I figured all was well with the world and went to sleep! While I was sleeping Clinton presided over the dismantling of the banking regulations set up after the great depression. He pushed NAFTA which has inundated us with refugees from Mexico and deregulated the media so that only a few corporations can now feed us the "conservitive" (NEOCON) agenda. I fear that if Obama manages to overwhelm the Republican election rigging and gets in the White house everyone, including you, will go to sleep, just like I did and our march into the brick will will continue. If McCain get in there, our guard will stay up. With that scenario, we might actually be better off in the long run with McCain. If we are going to crash, it's better to do it sooner rather then later! Obama will NOT stop the crash. He will just delay it! Scary!

Al k.
www.votenader.org

WE THE PEOPLE want to WIN our nation back from the Neocons!!!

IMPEACH BUSHCO & RICO PNAC/AIPAC...PNAC is Bush/Cheney's "Helter Skelter" !

NO SPOILERS , PERIOD > WE MUST DEFEAT MCCAIN!!!

Yank,

You can't reason with some people. I never expected to convert your thinking. I just want the others reading all this to use their own judgment. Just like Nader, I don't expect to win, just to influence the thinking.

I beleive it's YOU who is the "spoiler".

Al K.

www.votenader.org

that's why Obama is so ahead in the polls today!!!

IMPEACH BUSHCO & RICO PNAC/AIPAC...PNAC is Bush/Cheney's "Helter Skelter" !

WE MUST DEFEAT MCCAIN!!!

We are SSooooooo screwed!

Al K.

Obama is soooo far ahead , that even Green Party can't betray THE PEOPLE's will this time! Neocons will finally be GONE , no thanks to Ralph Nader.

IMPEACH BUSHCO & RICO PNAC/AIPAC...PNAC is Bush/Cheney's "Helter Skelter" !

NO MORE SPOILERS , PERIOD > WE MUST DEFEAT MCCAIN!!!

I think you are not well documented. Why?

1-

"Obama voted FOR the FISA cop-out bill allowing warrant-less wiretapping."

Obama ONLY voted for not allowing every body to start SUEING the Companies who by ORDER OF THE PRESIDENT started the wiretapping.

He NEVER voted for alowing warrant-less wiretapping as you claim.

2- "He voted FOR the Wall St. bailout and all sorts of other corporate backed legislation!"
Yes That's truth BUT:

I would have done the same thing in his place.Why?

If the BAIL OUT don't go and he VOTES NO and the situation get worst AS IT WILL BE.
The MEDIA will blame him for stoping the "CURE".

It was a political move, He told BUSH: You want money, TAKE IT and fix the problem IF YOU CAN.
He doesn't want to be blame for BUSH ECONOMIC mistakes.

3-
"He continues the saber-rattling against Iran. He will NOT get us out of Iraq. Those are EXACTLY McCain's positions! "

Yes, but he is willing to talk TO IRAN, THE RUSIANS, CUBANS ect.
Him and HIS ADVISORS has a diferent aproach towards Conflicts.
Yes i think he will get us OUT Of IRAQ. That's has always been his PRIORITY in the area. Or at least he will try.

His policy in afganistan IT IS WRONG. That's A LOST WAR! He JUST wants to appear like he is "TOUGH on TERROR".

BUT HIS POLICY IS FAR FROM THE NEOCON BUSH - MCCAINE DOCTRINE

Just take a look the FOREIGH POLICY ADVISORS team of them.

OBAMA'S team IT IS LIKE GANDHI compare to the others two!

I disagree too.

If you look carefully at all this you will see that all your reasoning is simply rationalizations. A vote for FIAS is a vote to protect the corporations that perpetrated the illegal wiretapping. This is the case no matter what the rationalization for it is. It was done to stop a court case that would have exposed all sorts of stuff the telecoms didn't want us to known! That's the bottom line.

Yes, Obama says he will talk to Iran. That is far better than Bush would do. He is still making threats at them though. This is counterproductive to peace (besides being counter to international law) and the same crap that Bush used to pave the way to the war with Iraq. Don't be fooled. He will side with the "military industrial complex" just as president Eisenhower warned us about when the chips are down.

"If the BAIL OUT don't go and he VOTES NO and the situation get worst AS IT WILL BE. The MEDIA will blame him for stopping the "CURE"."

This is very poor logic and intended only to rationalize a vote for the people who finance him and his party. If he really stood for "change you can believe it" he would have pushed for the delay needed to truly investigate what is really needed to fix this mess. No.. He pushed for the bail out QUICK, QUICK against overwhelming public opposition. His real fear was that the Wall St interests would crush him just like they threatened to do to John Kerry if he challenged the election fixing in Ohio in 2004. Obama votes for corporate interests every time and gives us rationalizations that the corporate media repeats over and over. It all sounds good because lies always do. They can be fashioned to do that. Truth, on the other had, is often very hard to swallow! It can't be tailored to fit your purpose unless your purpose IS truth.

Al k.

www.votenader.org

I

Alkeng:

YES vote for a 3rd LOSER PARTY!

I HOPE. WE DON'T MEET IN A CONCENTRATION CAMP!

You can START Practicing now:

HEIL McCain!
HEIL MCcAIN!
HEIL McCain!
HEIL McCain!

Sounds good right?

jlennon08,

Sorry, I thought you might have a logical counter for the discussion. You obviously don't. If you can't come up with a good counter point, just get mad. It works for Bill O'Riley!

Heil Wall St.!
Heil ExonMobile!
Heil Haliburton!
Heil General Electric!

That sounds pretty good too! Right?

Al k.
www.votendaer.org

Just saw the Electoral Polls , Al, we're not mad, even Nader could not ruin this election year!!! :o)

IMPEACH BUSHCO & RICO PNAC/AIPAC...PNAC is Bush/Cheney's "Helter Skelter" !

WE MUST DEFEAT MCCAIN!!!

Oh, you again!

Yep, we're screwed!

I just remembered. I forgot the main one:

Heil Blackwater! That is the big one that is being built up to get all of us.

Al K.

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