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9/11 Truth Movement vs. 9/11 Truth

Hi all, This from David Rovics, a protest singer/songwriter. May upset some here, but I believe worth passing on for your consideration. Rain

9/11 Truth Movement vs. 9/11 Truth

Or, who are these people and why do they keep yelling at me?

I found myself once again singing at an antiwar rally two weeks ago, and once again being confronted by a red-faced white man with an ominous hand-written sign reading, "9/11 was a lie." Most of the crowd was filing off for the post-rally march, aside from a few of my loyal fans who were sticking around for the rest of my set. Among them was the red-faced man, apparently not a fan, who walked towards the small stage with the wild-eyed certainty of a zealot.

"Wake up, David Rovics! David Rovics, wake up to the truth of 9/11!" He was screaming at the top of his lungs, standing about two feet from me. (I continued with the song.) In case I didn't get the message the first time, the red-faced man repeated his mantra. "Wake up! Wake up to the truth of 9/11!"

People like him, whoever he was, have become a fixture of antiwar and other protests since sometime soon after September 11th, 2001. They regularly call in to radio talk shows, they maintain many websites, produce innumerable documentaries, publish plenty of books, hold regular conferences, and show up with alarming predictability to heckle and denounce prominent progressive authors and activists at their speaking engagements.

Art Bell and company

For over a decade I've made a living as a touring musician. As a hardcore news junkie, when satellite radio came into existence I was one of its very first customers, and since I got one I've been able to saturate myself with BBC World Service and the English-language broadcasts of public radio from around the world to my heart's content. But for the many years before satellite radio, during my many late-night drives across the plains, deserts and corn fields of the US, choices were much slimmer.

In the early morning or late afternoon there was usually an NPR (Nationalist Petroleum Radio) station to be found, or, very occasionally, a Pacifica affiliate where I might listen to my favorite radio news programs, Democracy Now! and Free Speech Radio News. (At the very beginning, these programs could be heard on satellite radio via the Hispanic Radio Network, but that channel soon vanished from the satellite airwaves -- over one hundred choices offered, but no news channel to the left of Al Franken...)

But late at night, there were four choices. On the FM airwaves, commercial pop anti-music of various prefabricated genres brought to you by ClearChannel. On AM, you could choose from rightwing Christian evangelists, Rush Limbaugh and Art Bell. The evangelists don't really do anything for me, but when I was getting sleepy, I'd listen to Rush, because he's always good for waking me up -- the powerful desire to strangle someone tends to keep you alert. But most of the time, if I wasn't tired, I'd tune in to Art Bell.

For those unfamiliar with Art Bell's show, it was a corporate-sponsored, nightly, several-hour-long show that has since been passed on to other hosts last I heard, and can generally be found on at least two different AM signals anywhere in the country every weeknight, starting sometime after midnight, as I recall. He apparently broadcast from somewhere in Nevada near the infamous Area 51, where he and many of his guests seemed to believe the US military was experimenting with space aliens who had landed there some time ago.

His guests tended to be authors who had written books or made documentaries about aliens from outer space, telepathy, what all the ghosts are up to these days, Hitler being alive and living in the Antarctic, crop circles, and so on. Being a science fiction fan and one who has had personal experiences that have led me to at least consider the possibility that there is validity in some of these claims, about what Art called the paranormal, I listened with interest to Art and his guests, although usually it was fairly evident they were full of shit.

Listening to Art's guests and to the men (and very occasionally women) who called in, I remembered the excitement I felt as a child, before I developed a more three-dimensional understanding of the world around me, before I developed a fairly solid capability for critical thinking, before I began to understand how to read between the lines of the biases of the various authorities, experts and pundits out there in the textbooks, newspapers and airwaves. I remembered the excitement of having secrets with certain friends that only we "knew." My own pet theories as a child included the notion that cows were not as stupid as they looked, standing around chewing cud, that they were actually engaged in astral travel, using their apparent stupidity as a grand cover of some kind. I fairly well convinced myself in the existence of dragons and elves and other mythical creatures, long after I had realized there was no Santa Claus.

But the fantasy life of children can become very odd when practiced by grown men. Many, if not most, of Art's guests and callers seemed to believe that the things they "knew," such as their prevalent idea that the US military was hiding space aliens in Area 51, were phenomenae that only people like them and Art were being honest about. The rest of the media, society, and the powers-that-be were either ignorant about these realities, or, at least as often, were engaging in a huge, X-Files kind of coverup.

Especially in the context of a fundamentally alienated society, especially for a certain class of white men who seem to be somewhat on the margins of the US system of power and privilege, but are white and male enough to believe that they deserve better, the sort of feeling of brotherhood that comes with "knowing" something that the rest of society doesn't know is a powerful one. It's an obvious source of excitement, and gives people a sense of belonging. Without having had access to more rational ways of understanding their place in the world and the complexities of society, current events, history and power structures, they have found some kind of lens through which they can try to understand the world.

It's a faith-based sort of thing. These people are not looking for different points of view, they are looking for further confirmation of what they already believe -- and of course they share this with many, many others who we could call "people of faith," whether they are Christians who believe Jesus was the son of God, Muslims who believe there is one God, Allah is his name and Mohammed was his prophet, neoliberals who believe the unregulated market will make everybody rich, or Maoists who believe the Chinese cultural revolution was the greatest achievement of humankind. No evidence to the contrary will deter these people in their unswerving certainties.

What I always found most interesting as well as most disconcerting about listening to Art Bell, though, was how he would occasionally -- but regularly -- have on guests who were talking about very real and verifiable conspiracies. Things like the CIA's active role in the world drug trade, the State Department's role in overthrowing governments around the world, or the US, Saudi and Pakistani collaboration in creating, arming and funding the Taleban and Al-Qaeda.

Topics which the corporate media would almost never touch could find an occasional voice in Art Bell -- although Art was just as corporate-funded as ABC or CNN. It seemed that if most of the programming was clearly fantasy-based conspiracy theories, the corporate masters felt that it was politically acceptable to allow Art to have the occasional reality check. It would generally go unnoticed by most people, or be discounted as just another wacky conspiracy theory, so it was OK.

Fantasy undermining reality

And if giving a wide audience to the real conspiracies become harmless when they're presented within a sea of fictional conspiracies, the flip side of that is that the very legitimate investigative journalists such as Seymour Hersch and Robert Fisk who are uncovering and reporting on things like the US role in funding groups like Al-Qaeda can more easily get lost among the static, lost among the hundreds of documentaries purporting to prove that the World Trade Center was brought down by controlled explosives, that the planes that crashed into them were on autopilot and there really were no terrorists on board, that the cell phone conversations passengers had with their loved ones before they died were faked, that there was no plane that hit the Pentagon, and so on.

If you bother slogging through the volumes of books and stacks of documentaries that "9/11 Truth" people will foist on you if you let them, you will find that most of them are propaganda pieces and most of the "experts" are not experts in relevant fields. When you do look beyond this mass of misinformation for real experts, you will easily find pilots who can discount the claims of the Truthers that maneuvering the planes into the towers was a particularly challenging thing for people with only a little flight training to pull off. You will easily find mechanical engineers familiar with the structural flaws in the design of the WTC that allowed it to collapse in the first place, and physicists who can explain why such large buildings would appear to be imploding as if in a controlled demolition, or why people on the scene would have thought they were hearing explosions, etc. My purpose here is not to disprove all the hypothoses presented by the Truthers and their propaganda pieces -- if you want to look into "debunking the debunkers" yourself, there is plenty of information out there, and Popular Mechanics' issue on the subject is a good place to start.

The fact is, the scientific community, while certainly not immune to political pressure, is generally able to function with a grounding in actual science, and is not capable of participating, as a community, in some kind of mass conspiracy of silence or coverup. There is no way to bribe that many scientists. Too many of them believe in the importance of science for science's sake, in honesty. This can be amply demonstrated by the fact that with all the political pressure and money of the US government and ExxonMobil combined, there is still essentially unanimity among climate scientists worldwide that climate change is real, is caused by humans, and is dangerous for our species and others. Even after all the billions upon billions of dollars spent by the tobacco industry to obfuscate reality and bribe policymakers and the scientific community, the scientific community was able to study the issue and determine incontrovertibly the link between smoking cigarettes and lung cancer.

Sowing seeds of doubt

The "9/11 Truth Movement" undoubtedly is made up largely of earnest, decent people, the sorts of decent folks who make up most of Art Bell's guests and listeners. Since thousands of their fellow countrymen and women died on 9/11 and since this event -- whether it was a terrorist attack carried out by US-trained Mujahideen that could have been prevented, or an entirely "inside job" carried out by Dick Cheney with the aide of computers and plastic explosives, as many Truthers claim -- many people in many communities have become justifiably agitated and outraged by world-scale injustices, such as the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and so on.

The old Art Bell listeners who used to be entertained by the fact that most people don't believe there are space aliens in Area 51 are now really extra worked up because the vast conspiracy they have come to believe in are resulting in the deaths of huge numbers of people around the world. And if the rest of us would just understand what they understand, everything would be different. If the media would report on reality as they see it, people would wake up and do something about this situation.

The particularly warped thing about this, though, is that the very media outlets, authors and activists who are doing their best to expose the very real conspiracies that are going on -- people like Amy Goodman and Democracy Now!, David Barsamian's Alternative Radio, Z Magazine, the Progressive Magazine, Norman Solomon and the Institute for Public Accuracy, Noam Chomsky, etc., seem to have become the primary targets of harassment by the Truthers.

Amy Goodman, Noam Chomsky, Norman Solomon and others are now regularly heckled at speaking events, and denounced on websites as "gatekeepers." They are seen, it seems, as being even worse than the corporate media, because while reasonable people know not to trust Fox or CNN, they have faith in the integrity of people like Amy Goodman.

You don't have to know Norman Solomon, Amy Goodman or her producers personally to see what nonsense this "gatekeeper" stuff is. You needn't ever have met Amy to know that she has risked her life, and very nearly lost her life, in her decades-long efforts to report the truth. You needn't know her producers personally to recognize that these are all earnest young progressives working long hours to create a daily news program they deeply believe in. The notion that all of her producers are somehow maintaining a code of silence in exchange for the privilege of having their names mentioned at the end of the broadcast, or in exchange for their nominally middle-class salaries, is preposterous.

However, judging from numerous emails I get and conversations I have with fans and acquaintances from around the US and elsewhere, the efforts of the Truthers to sow seeds of doubt among readers and listeners of progressive media is having some palpable impact. Increasingly, I hear from people who have vaguely heard something about this "gatekeeper" phenomenon, something about Ford Foundation money undermining the entire progressive media.

As is so often the case, there are little grains of truth in here that can fester in the minds of people who are not looking at the information critically. For the cops among the Truthers (of course it's a matter of the public record that the FBI and other such agencies regularly write "newspaper articles" -- propaganda or disinformation of whatever sort they deem useful which they disseminate through newspapers, websites, etc.), undermining the legitimacy of the progressive media is exactly their goal, because they don't want the population to know the truth or to trust those who are reporting it. For the more earnest elements among the Truthers, undermining the progressive media is also their goal, because they don't see it as being distinct from the corporate media anyway -- so whether earnest or insidious, the effect is the same.

The grain of truth, of course, is that government, corporate and foundation money have undoubtedly succeeded in making PBS and NPR a shell of it's former self. Foundation money has also had a debilitating impact on the nonprofit world, since support for essential but illegal activities such as civil disobedience on the part of nonprofits will tend to cause them to lose foundation support. Also, nonprofits are prevented by law from participating openly in the electoral process, or they lose their nonprofit status. If progressive media is being influenced by the relatively small amount of foundation money it receives, I don't see it.

It seems evident to me that shows like Democracy Now! are quite willing -- and indeed, are doing their best -- to make waves as much as possible. If they don't report a story it's because they don't think it's a story, or it's not an important enough one to bother with. In the case of "theories" like the notion that controlled demolition brought down the World Trade Center or there were no members of Al-Qaeda on board the airplanes, this narrative has received little coverage in the progressive media because, upon investigation, most decide it's patently ridiculous.

The real gatekeepers

Sometime in 2002 I wrote a song called "Reichstag Fire," in which I asked many of the questions the Truthers were asking. The point of the song was primarily to say that 9/11 has been used as an excuse for the US to carry out a genocidal crusade on much of the Muslim world, and to further the US government's bipartisan agenda of world domination and control of valuable resources in other countries, such as oil. (This is something Truthers and most other people in the world can generally agree on.) In the song I also posed questions which I now feel have been adequately explained.

Were there really Arab terrorists on board the planes? Yes. Did the CIA know an attack was imminent? Yes. I don't regret writing the song, or becoming a very minor celebrity within the 9/11 Truth Movement, because I think these questions needed to be asked, and answered. But while some questions can only remain unanswered until certain people within the US government become whistleblowers, other questions have been answered, and my answers (and those of most people who have looked into these things) and those of what now constitutes the Truth Movement differ wildly. Particularly because I have been seen by some as part of this movement (although I seem to be increasingly getting lumped into the "gatekeeper" camp), I felt compelled to write this essay.

The truth is, in fact, out there. Much of it is certainly still there to be discovered, but many fundamental, essential truths are already known. The truth -- that, for example, the CIA funded and armed Al-Qaeda and the Taleban, that a tiny minority of very wealthy people control much of the US government and the "mainstream" (corporate/"public") media, that the US military systematically goes around the world overthrowing democracies, propping up dictatorships, and killing millions of people with bombs -- is what the progressive media is reporting on hourly, daily, weekly or monthly. These are the truths that people in the US most need to "wake up" to. These are the truths that are systematically unreported or severely under-reported by the corporate press, which, even in the age of the internet, is still where the vast majority of people in the US get their news, and thus, their understanding of the world.

These corporate media entities and the genocidal, ecocidal plutocracy they serve are the "gatekeepers" that need to be exposed. The truths they are trying to hide from us are the truths that need to be understood, and acted upon. The progressive media that is trying to do just that needs to be supported, not undermined with essentially baseless accusations (legitimate criticisms and suggestions notwithstanding).

The people who are trying, with some degree of success, to undermine these basic endeavors of the progressive movement and the progressive media need to be exposed for what they are -- whether they fall into the category of well-meaning but misguided fanatics or undercover government agents quite purposefully and systematically working to spread disinformation and sow confusion and distrust. And, beyond any reasonable doubt, the "Truth Movement" contains both of these elements. To both of these groups I beseech you -- wake up! Wake up to the real, easily-verifiable conspiracies -- which are extremely big ones! -- and quit trying to distract us with all the nonsense about gatekeepers and controlled demolitions!

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What could be worse than a cabal plotting multiple wars against humankind by abusing our own soldiers,
even BEFORE 9/11 ?

Thank you Rain, for exposing that reality is bad enuf.



Just like the "reality" of our only salvation lies in Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton's election, right?

You know, I call for a NEW INVESTIGATION into the events of 9/11.

I'm not some screaming jack-ass.

I didn't come to this horrible conclusion because I watched some stupid fucking video.

I have spent, YEARS reading, learning, and trying to figure out that the 9/11 Truth Movement had it wrong.

And I was convinced for the longest time, that I was right, and they lived in their own little fantasy world, Rain.

But eventually, when all the pieces of the puzzle just happened to fall right into place for them, and then all the lies and distortions the administration, FEMA, NIST, PENTAGON, CIA, ect. ect. ect. when they ALL get weighed in together...

... you start to see a very clear, and unmistakable picture develop.

What? You think that somehow this administration is capable of committing genecide in a foreign land, but not the attacks of 9/11 because... they were Americans that died?

Ever heard of Katrina? What? You think that 5 day delay was an accident?

Explain to me how two planes caused the collapse of 3 buildings?

Explain to me how it just so happened that every building in the complex was destroyed, freeing up Silverman, a real estate developer with ties to the republican party, to do what he has done his entire career: demo and rebuild. And he just HAPPENED to get the insurance deal signed 6 weeks before 9/11.

How is it that the third building to collapse that day (ever seen the video? look like controled demo?) just happened to hold all the records of the Enron, Tyco and other corporate greed evidence, that was irreplacable after the "collapse"?

Jet fuel burns at 1400deg.
A-36 structral steel melts at 2750deg.
Open fire material burns at 475-550deg.

NIST and FEMA both report that the jet fuel burned off in the first 5-8 minutes after the planes hit. Leaving only office furnature and files and carpet to burn an "open fire" type burn.

Remember the "pancake" theory? they threw that one out because it didn't hold up to scrutiny.

Remember the different stories from the FAA, NORAD, Cheny? Remember those?

Just what we need right now. Some lame jackass song-writer thinking he has ANY insight into what happened.

Tell you what; Stephen Jones, Richard Gage, David Ray Griffith, Kevin Ryan, Jim Hoffman, Frank Legge, these are ENGINEERS AND ARCHITECTS AND SCIENTISTS...

not washed up song writers.

Here, if you really want to see what the "movement" is about;

this is a peer reviewed scientific study of evidence of tempatures from 9/11 that could not be explained by jet fuel and office materials.

It's just plain science. Like...DNA... or what they do at a standard fire scene. They investigate.

This is peer reviewed; the 9/11 Commission was not. Nor was the NIST report. Nor FEMA's.

This one was.

This is Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth.

300+ registered engineers and over 1000+ other professionals in the industry who are CURRENTLY risking their careers to openly support a call for a new investigation, because the SCIENCE of the official story doesn't add up.

This is Patriot Question 9/11.

Here you will find over a thousand different Politicians, Retired Military officers, High Ranking Public figures, scholars, professors...

all who question, for various reasons, the "official story" of what happened on 9/11.

Now, I put all of this out there, just so others reading this thread will know...

The 9/11 Truth Movement, as he appears to claim, isn't made up of nut jobs and mental defects.

These are successful professionals who, at great risk to their credibility and their careers, have come forward to support a call for a new investigation.

I own a small architectural drafting and design company, I have signed on with AE911truth. And I too have lost clients because of my affiliation.

Shall we continue??

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The political party I belong to is the entire body politic of the United States of America and our Constitution that I support without bias which neither states or implies any allegiance with any other socalled organized political party.

...if you pay attention.

"My purpose here is not to disprove all the hypothoses presented by the Truthers and their propaganda pieces..."

Propaganda? Is that what 9/11Truth is?

"If you bother slogging through the volumes of books and stacks of documentaries that "9/11 Truth" people will foist on you if you let them, you will find that most of them are propaganda pieces and most of the "experts" are not experts in relevant fields." - military experts, CIA ops, Bush administration officials, 9/11 Commissioners, ect. ect. ect. - Over 1500 engineers, architects, structural engineering students, and working professionals in the related fields.

And I am one of them. And i know a damn site more than the "protest singer" about the contruction of the Twin Towers.

Now, by his own standards, his arguement is horribly FLAWED.

Which am I Rain?

You thought this kind of piece needed to be concidered...

Which am I? Am I a fanatic? Does all that information that I have posted about make me a fanatic? Do all those professionals fit that description?

Am I a fanatic Rain, like the article suggests?

Or am I an "undercover agent"?

Which am I Rain?

Nope, never mind, it's just April's fool ;-D



which suggests "intense uncritical devotion" though I suspect there are some undercover agents around.

I haven't made up my mind about 9/11. When someone here posted link to the Patriots Question 9/11 months ago, I was up until 4 am watching testimonials, floored by it all, where before I had ignored all of it because I figured since I am no scientist or pilot, how could I even hope to understand what happened.

There are some congress people calling for an investigation, but at the rate they do little now, I'm not holding my breath.

David's points about attacking progressive journalists and the detrimental effects on all of us was the main reason I posted, not to suggest anyone a fanatic.

...that when David (not Swanson) makes his backhanded accusations about "propaganda" and the lack of credibility of those of us out there looking to create a call for a real investigation into 9/11, that HE is "attacking"?

Especially when he is so clearly wrong on the issues he sites?

People have a right to demand justice in this country. People have a right to expect an investigation that is not run by a Bushie. And they have a right to be mad if those efforts are demeaned by "progressive" journalists.

Should they yell and scream? No.

But most of us don't. We write, and we talk, and we point out to our fellow liberals, conservatives, and just plain Americans, that there is something seriously wrong with the official story of 9/11. In hopes that others will take up the cause.

But I would like people to re-read that article from David above, and ask yourself, who is "attacking" who?

There is a new book out "9/11 Contradictions"..

here is one review..

" It focuses entirely on contradictory statements made by members of the Bush administration, government departments and agencies, and official bodies such as the 9/11 Commission. All the statements that Griffin examines are official claims in direct conflict with other official claims."

His idea is that there are lots of people who feel overwhelmed by the science and the engineering evidence, so they stay "on the fence" so to speak. They know something SEEMS wrong.

What he does is address just the contradictions in the official story. And really just the glaring ones.

This is what a prosecuter does when taking apart a defendants story. Looks for the aspects that don't "add up".

Well, why is it that there are so many serious contradictions in the official story, and no-one is really holding up the presses saying "wait a minute. That doesn't work"?

That's all he is saying, and that is all I am saying.

And considering that 9/11 is the root of ALL of this imperialism... and considering that EVERYTHING they wrote about wanting to do to this country and the Middle East, has taken place BECAUSE of 9/11...

And considering that they wrote about the need for a "new Pearl Harbor type event" to speed the process and galvanize the nation to let them do these things...

all that said... i think a new investigation is warrented.

Journal of 911 Studies is a complete collection of credible research on the subject; done by scientists, and professors.

46 reviewed articles, 50+ letters, ...

"Our mission is to provide evidence-based, peer-reviewed research that furthers the cause of truth and justice."

I have read most of these, and can suggest fsome of the more interesing ones, if you like.

The point is, though many would have us believe that these are crack-pots and "fanatics" that make up this movement, that is FAR from the truth.

And the ONLY reason that they can get away with saying that is because MSM as well as many "progressive" sites, don't either investigate what they write (like this guy) or they are purposefully misrepresenting the "movement".

The progressive sites don't want to be labled "fringe" and therefore outside the mainstream "progressive" movement.

Much like many of them don't allow IMPEACHMENT threads these days...


But lost on this author was KISS (Keep It Simple, Stupid) which that author (or whatever he claimed he is) didn't quite understand. I read enough to tell me that the person is confused, they think they have the answer, maybe that's why all the words. Damn glad I wasn't trapped at some table listening to this person -- He'd drive me bonkers wanting to get a word in now and again.

9/11 was an inside job -- now look at how KISS that was.

This is where he calls us "a certain class" of "white men"... "without having access to more rational ways of understanding their place in the world..."

That's what I need; a protest singer/song-writer telling me and my whole "class of white men" what our "place in the world really is.

real nice...

"Especially in the context of a fundamentally alienated society, especially for a certain class of white men who seem to be somewhat on the margins of the US system of power and privilege, but are white and male enough to believe that they deserve better, the sort of feeling of brotherhood that comes with "knowing" something that the rest of society doesn't know is a powerful one. It's an obvious source of excitement, and gives people a sense of belonging. Without having had access to more rational ways of understanding their place in the world and the complexities of society, current events, history and power structures, they have found some kind of lens through which they can try to understand the world."

that it was the Downing Street Memo itself that exposed a new level of deceit and cynical bold-faced lying to justify mass murder that our government is capable of that directly led me to finally investigate 9/11 with open eyes and discover that the evidence of an inside job is overwhelming. And to read such a ludicrous and hypocritical rant as this by David Rovics, whom I've long considered a hero in the peace movement, that heaps contempt and ridicule on those of us who, after a long and painful and courageous process of facing the facts and carefully researching the available evidence, have been forced to conclude, not out of glee, but out of horror, that our government was complicit in the crime and cover-up of one of the most dispickable acts in US history, on a web site called "" is, for me, about the most ironic thing I've ever seen.

I will never forget when the Downing Street Memo was leaked to the media in May of 2005. Thanks to the alternative media here in the US, I discovered that the foreign press had just revealed the leaked memo and the fact that Bush and Blair blatently and pre-meditatively decided to fabricate the justification for invading Iraq, to "fix the facts" that would convince a reluctant public to we had no choice to attack. After I read the Times of London, I said to myself, "Oh boy, this story is going to be huge when it breaks in the US press!. This is going to be a huge!" Well, I waited and waited and waited, and finally after a month I realized that the US media was more controlled than I previously thought. The deafening silence by the US media on one of the most important stories of the new millennium that was already known by most of the public outside of the US, as well as those of us in the US who knew about it by looking outside the mainstream US media, for some reason had a huge effect on me. I already knew that the US corporate media was controlled and often didn't publicize important stories, but I didn't realize just how controlled it was until the Downing Street memo.

In June 2005, within a month of the revelation of the Downing Street memo, AND DUE LARGELY TO THE DOWNING STREET MEMO FIASCO, I finally for the first time decided to look into the claims of controlled demolition of the World Trade Center on 9/11, not initially taking the CD theory seriously. What I discovered about the direct evidence of CD that I never before knew existed before that point in time completely blew my mind and turned my world upside down. I have since spent hundreds of hours researching 9/11 as well as the "man behind the curtain", deciding that its time that I really find out the truth about history and who is really running the world. I discovered that there is a long history of the use of "false flag" type of deceptions by governments to initiate wars of aggression and that 9/11 is not the exception, but rather more of the rule. I will not enumerate here all the other pieces of evidence and facts that dispute the official story of 9/11, since other bloggers here are already providing lots of these details and links to further research.

Those who are ready for the truth and courageous enough to open their eyes to it, will easily discover these facts for themselves with just a little bit of honest effort and critical thinking. At this point, most people on blogs such as this are either ready for the truth and have already taken the plunge into the 9/11 rabbit hole, or will continue to keep their heads in the sand and look for every plausible-sounding reason to refuse to consider the disturbing facts of 9/11. I believe that David Rovics' rant above is intended for the second group of people - those who have not yet objectively looked into the evidence of inside job and cover-up of 9/11 and who want to continue finding reasons NOT to seriously look at the evidence.

No, I'm not a red-faced screaming white male, a "certain class of white men who seem to be somewhat on the margins of the US system of power and privilege..." blah blah blah blah...who doesn't have anything better to do than to yell and scream at those hard-working progressives who are just trying to do the right thing if only those conspiracy wackos would just leave them alone...PALEESE!

No, I have never yelled and screamed at people to try to convince them that we were lied to about 9/11. It's sad that David Rovics has to hyprocritically resort to the very same tactics that the corporate mainstream propagandists use to try to keep people from looking at certain uncomfortable facts: the use of ridicule and stereotypes to discredit and marginalize certain points of view.

Sad. Very sad. My respect for David Rovics has plunged and I hope for his sake that he doesn't wind up in the dust bin of history along with all the others who are not willing to face important and ultimately liberating facts about history and the true nature of those who run the world. Time's a wasting...If David and other "leaders" of the so-called anti-war movement are really sincere about stopping the bogus "war on terror", they'd better face the fact that you can't stop a bogus war without exposing the bogus foundation upon which it rests.

"David Ray Griffin has done admirable and painstaking research in reviewing mysteries surrounding the 9/11 attacks. It is the most persuasive argument I have seen for further investigation of the Bush administration's relationship to that historic and troubling event." -Howard Zinn

In August 2007, National Medal of Science winner Dr. Lynn Margulis praised The New Pearl Harbor and The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions, saying they provide "overwhelming evidence that the official story is contradictory, incomplete, and unbelievable", while calling for a new investigation.

former CIA agent Robert Baer:

"Until we get a complete, honest, transparent investigation--not one based on 'confession' extracted by torture--we will never know what happened on 9/11. David Griffin will never let this go until we get the truth."

1) hijacked jets
2) motive (US/Israel foreign policy in ME)



Once again a gross generalization. Were you to take the time to check out even a few of the links up that I have posted, you would see that I have extensively covered the "motive" aspect of 9/11.


"US/Israel foreign policy" is NOT the reason for all of this. It is a SYMPTOM of the problem

How is that imperialist foreign policy ANY different to our imperialist foreign policy in Central America? Latin America? Indonesia? The Near East? and now, the most important region of ALL... the Caspian Sea Basin?

The Neocon leaders of this country were the team that was picked to start off this transformation in the US, but they aren't the REAL architects of this plan.

You see, this plan existed back in Nixon's day, and his people wanted him to do the same kinds of things the Bush has been doing to our economy since day one.

But Nixon refused. He is famously quoted as saying "we are ALL Keynsians now"...

But as a consolation prize, he allowed the Chicago Boys the chance to go test out their ideas on Chile. And he allowed Kissenger to overthrow their government and install a dictator to do it.

But this is what these people have wanted for a long time. This is why they want control of the oil reserves in Iraq and Iran, as well as why they want to privatize the Social Security system of Columbia and the United States.

George Shultz is a lapdog for the Rockefellers. Shultz was there in 1972 in the Nixon Administation... and Shultz is the guy that put Bush together with Rice, Wolfowitz, and Cheney backe in 1998 when Bush was considering running for office.

These are the "motives" for 9/11.

I'm proud to know you my freind!!!

When I first heard Rovic's song Reichstag Fire I was so impressed. I invited David to sing at our benefit/fundraiser for the 1st San Francisco International Inquiry into 9/11, a show entitled- Behind Every Terrorist- There is a Bush (which was made into a one hour show and shown on Free Speech TV, and available online, as well as the first half of a DVD- the rest containing heavier speeches/a documentary on the SF Int'l Inquiry.)

I was actually horrifically disappointed that David didn't sing Reichstag Fire at the Music/Comedy event where he was the featured musician. He said it was because he hadn't memorized the words. I flew him to San Francisco for the SF Inquiry, just to play that song, and he still hadn't memorized the words, and used a music stand to hold the lyrics. Just because he wrote "the lyrics" didn't mean he believed the words or the message.

I know David Roivcs a little, as well as Norman Solomon, and Noam Chomsky, and I still cannot fathom their refusal to even look at the arguments/evidence which clearly indicates to me that 9/11 was the most botched special operation in US history.

One of my heroes, Aung Sung Suu Kyi wrote: "It is not power that corrupts, but fear -- fear of losing power and fear of the scourge of those who wield it."

I can only think that it is fear that blinds a good number of people from seeing what seems to be obvious facts to others. At a workshop in St. Louis on overcoming psychological barriers to 9/11, a woman brilliantly identified, what we are dealing with, when she said, "With most problems, people ask 'what can I do?' But 9/11 is so big, people must ask themselves, 'Who am I?'"

Are we good Germans, willing to support the rise of the Fourth Reich? Or are we part of the White Rose Society trying to awaken our fellow citizens, and stop the madmen waging war on our liberties, our thoughts, our perception of reality, the world.

I am a college drop-out, but I don't think it is a matter of degrees or intellect to understand the basic facts about 9/11 or to recognize the blatant lies/actions that followed in its wake, I think it is a matter of courage, spirit, solidarity with the bulk of humanity, rather than merging allegiances with the establishment or an elite group that feels they have the right to kill, control, lie, use, manipulate people to serve their interests.

We are working to send copies of 9/11 Contradictions, in many ways a very gentle book, simply pointing out the enormous contradictions within the official story itself- exposing the enormity of the Lie we have been fed, demanding answers to the questions raised- and a real (not a cover-up) investigation. What is most incomprehensible to me about Rovics, Solomon and Chomsky's attacks on the Truth Movement, is their failure to recognize the official story as an enormous Lie, which, if exposed, crumbles the foundation for the entire "bogus" wars on "terrorism" and "dissent."

Carol Brouillet
Publisher of the Deception Dollar
Co-Founder of the Northern California 9/11 Truth Alliance
Producer of the weekly radio show- Questioning War- Organizing Resistance
Green Party Congressional Candidate for Congress in CA District 14 (4-Impeachment, Truth, Peace...)

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