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By davidswanson - Posted on 21 September 2005
The arrogance of the GOP is incomprehensible. First, the HR375 is shot down, now this!!! The GOP has an agenda of its own - and it is not the will of the majority of the American people.
It is apparent that a revolution needs to commence. These people don't understand anything other than a taste of their own "stuff". They don't respect the law, don't respect life, other citizens worship, have no compassion for the plight of others.
Bushco does NOT respect ANY life at all! Bushco does NOT follow God !
God loves the Iraqui and Afghanistan peoples too>>> MURDER IS NOT FREEDOM!
I think God is about to speak in the form of RITA! Take note of the projected path which appears to be heading right for Galveston with HOUSTON, home of Momma Bush (you know the "over privileged" one) a mere 42 miles to the North!
I don't wish a Cat 5 on any part of the country, but maybe this pending disaster may provide the wake-up call.
AND,what i said up above may, as a result of Rita, render nothing left of significance to fight about what with the amount of refinerie's about to be damaged like the ones in NOLA. Rita is bearing down on all the off shore rigs as well ansthis will certainly finnish them. You know, i sometimes beleive i've lived too long...we may be witnessesing the destruction of the USA by natural force's not here to fore anticipated. BTW, nothing in the news about Fitzgerald **HUMPHREY**
That's my comment. Does this mean the grand juries that have been meeting in Chicago will just go away?
Word has it that Bush is planning on replacing Fitzgerald in his investigation. I believe Time will carry the story. Bush is out of control.
WED, SEP 21, 05 3:15PM
THIS IS HUMPHREY IN SPFLD ILL. I JUST TELEPHONED DEM SENATOR DICK DURBIN'S LOCAL OFFICE AND ASK'ED IF THE FITZGERALD INVESTIGATION WAS STILL PROCEDING. THE FEMALE WHO ANSWERED STATED SHE HAD NO INFORMATION ABOUT THE INVESTIGATION, HER DEMEANOR WAS AS IF SHE HAD NEVER HEARD OF THIS INVESTIGATION. I WAS REFERED TO THE CHICAGO OFFICE AND THE PUBLIC INFO REP THERE. I DID NOT WASTE MY TIME ON THIS. CURRENTLY, IM LOOKING FOR ANY CONFIRMATION FROM ALL RELIVANT SOURCES THAT THE FITZGERALD INVESTIGATION HAS BEEN STOPPED BUT I CAN FIND NO INFO REF THIS QUESTION. ILL KEEP LOOKING AND POST ANY INFO I FIND AND CONFIRM HERE IN THIS POST.**HUMPHREY**
Every day I read article after article on this website about this and that right being swept away without hesitation. What is John Bonifaz, a Constitutional attorney, going to do when the Constitution is GONE. What is the whole profession of attorneys going to do to get their $200.00/hr. when the whole legal profession is; I'm right, I have the gun! It is up to the lawyers to stand up for the rule of law. I always thought a Prosecutor's job wasn't to get a conviction but to get at the truth. Laughable now when one sees the hiding of evidence and the other injustices that go on in a court room. Folks, with a heavy heart, I think we've lost; the globalists control this country and we are their slaves.
Don't let this situation put you down. We will be victorious.
you may not believe it, but we have won.
Amazing events will happen soon.
We're on our own and no tinfoil hat will help. This is OUR war, stand up and make yourselves HEARD!!!!!!!!!
Where it may presently appear that all is lost, that would be in ref to the legal rule of law battle being lost, but the war is not lost. What war? The one that will be physically fought in the street's, in the country side etc. One one side will be determined armed citizen's trained and led by patriot millitary personel who will know where their place will be, what their duty will be and to whom. On the opposing side, certainly to be expected, will be those who choose to throw in with the evil of the fascist group who have come into power...It would be impossible to predict the outcome. The succsess would require the support of the non combantant citizerny without who's support,, the entire effort would certainly fail, and plunge this country totally at the mercy of those criminal's now seated firmly in power. Now may be the time to start anticipating the moral issue's surrounding this possible comming struggle and deciding which side of this struggle all of you will ultimatly have to decide where your loyalities will be. Essentially, it will be a personal choice in that you are either with the revolutionary millitary force's that fight for all of us, or you are in full support of the current criminal tyranny element now determined to, more or less, enslave the entire American Population. It is as simple a choice as that but one everyone will have to make, eventually, im certainly sorry to have to say..**HUMPHREY**
Fighting in the streets is not wise. The corporate media will portray the people as thugs and criminals, and the national guard and military will crush the uprising.
The corporate media keeps the masses confused about who the real enemy is. Various people think it's terrorists, drug dealers, liberals, Hollywood, the Democrats, the United Nations, environmentalists, etc... How can you have a successful revolution when people can't agree who the enemy is?
A fair number of leftists think the enemy is George Bush. These were the anyone-but-Bush people who supported Kerry.
In reality, the enemy isn't Bush, it's the billionaires who put him there, and who will put in his replacement when he's gone. They also finance the Democrats through their corporations.
Focusing solely on the Bush Administration will accomplish nothing, as the next Republican will continue the same policies oppressing the non-wealthy. Focusing solely on the Bush Administration also leads to supporting the Democrats, who back essentially the same Republican policies that favor the wealthy.
Recall the Democrats brought us globalization, oppose universal healthcare, voted for the Patriot Act renewal, voted for the bankruptcy bill, voted for the worst right-wing Supreme Court justices, etc...
Making progress in this corporate-dominated society requires a clear understanding of how the wealthy and their corporations are degrading our standard of living for their increased profits. It requires critically evaluating politicians before voting for them, including choosing alternatives to corporate-friendly Democrats.
In order for a significant number of people to achieve a clear understanding of the class struggle, media reform is essential. The corporate media can effortlessly distract and misdirect people away from the forces that are working against citizens.
Unfortunately the left has been ignoring the media, which is a major reason why we haven't made much progress. There was a very good article about this at www.commondreams.org yesterday: http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0921-31.htm
If enough people start to see things clearly, fighting in the streets will be unnecessary.
I have a weekly socal activity i partake in on thursday nite's and tonight took an excessive amount of time.
So, if what you say is correct, that we have no real alternitive's in the event the present trend continues. Subsequently, then, we just eventually have to except what ever our lot ends up being?.. No real gainfull employment? just low paying job's for a majority? no homes, essentially, the American dream becomeing a nightmare. A 20 % minority of the population living a quality of life while a 60 % end up with nothing, and the last 10 % in total control. Our children, and their children, and their children's children to fill the ranks of Armies fighting an endless war?
And you suggest that this 60 % just eventially except this? That any attempt beyond diplomacy is doomed to fail? No sir i cannot except that. If i am to die in the manner you described above, than i die for something i truly beleive in. you see, im old enough to remember a better America. That America,, the one i remember, doesen't exist anylonger. And i am grieving tremendously at the loss of an America that i once knew. Where it may not have been a perfect America, it was a much better America than now. In the America i remember, there was much hope and possibillity. A person from meager beginnings could make something of himself.(and herself) Not necessairly so in this America. In fact, presently, more likely than not, one can, in spite of great effort and sacrifice, one can suddenly find one's self on the outside looking in with no way to recover. In the America i remember, one could move freely about absent any fear that one's own government might exicute a fake terrorist attack resulting in loss of life soly to scare the rest into a fear related capitulation state of mind. In the America i remember, when a city or town was struck by natural disaster, there were immediate govermental response's to preserve life and initiate recovery.
Presently, i fear my government more than i fear anything else on this planet. And there is no other group of individuals that i trust less than the people in this present government. And i am to beleive that if the rule of law i grew up to trust and beleive in,, is denied to me and my fellow citizen's who beleive as i do, our only choice is to bow to this fact and except it?
No sir i will never except the present circumstances as my lot in life nor will i ever bow willingly to this false master. And in the not too distance future if myself and like minded individual's are forced to resist in the manner i have described, and it fail's, it's my beleif that this will only serve to create even more determined. effective resistance freedom fighter's.. I also beleive that those who would have only contempt for this struggle, initiatally,, will eventually see the error of that contempt.
Let me assure all who read this that i have no death wish. But i cannot live with the circumstances i see developing for the future.
And for the first time in my life the words,,"GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH",, HAVE A GENUINE MEANNING TO ME, LIKE NEVER BEFORE.
Let me assure everybody i am no hero. Im just a scared guy. nothing more. thank you**HUMPHREY**
I never implied there were no alternatives. The main point is that the Democrats that many liberals think are alternatives, are in reality financed by the same corporate power structure that finances the Republicans.
Look at the recent vote on Roberts for the Supreme Court: 3 out of 8 "Democrats" voted for this un-American corporate shill!
The alternatives are the parties that accept no corporate funding, like the Green Party. The Green Party is the fastest-growing party in the US, and shares common values with Green Parties in most other countries. This makes them ideally suited for coordinated resistance to the antidemocratic multinational corporations of the wealthy.
There are currently about 200 Green Party members in office in the US, that have won elections at the local level. Even before the Green Party starts winning elections at the state and national levels, Green Party votes send a clear message to the corporate Democrats that they better start representing the people they expect to vote for them.
The close elections between the Democrats and Republicans mean even a few percentage points can make the difference between winning and losing. A Green vote has much more impact on the Democrats than a Democratic vote. If you continue voting for Democrats that sell out to the corporate forces, they just take your vote for granted.
Other good ways of resisting the takeover of our country are donating to Public Citizen and the ACLU. Their newsletters and websites will help to keep you informed about the issues. www.commondreams.org is another good source of information that often doesn't make it through the filters of the corporate media.
Your confidence is, somewhat, reassuring. but there is immediate need for mid-term candidate's NOW to make theirselve's known.
In regards to your assessment that any paramillitary resistance would be crushed,,it would be foolish of me to discuss tactic's for a varity of reason's, the least of which are related to the fact that members of the oppossing side read these post's. And im not foolish or careless enough to disclose any direct information that would result in my "middle of the nite arrest"
for violation's of the Patriot Act, even though i suspect i have already crossed the line,,in the view's i have expressed.
I can freely disclose this to you sir.. Prior to any comencement of resistance measure's being employed, an active campaign of public disclosure outlining the rational for this action encluding,, all the relivant and material evidence to support this rational,, would be conducted to educate to the extent possible,, the public, but,, more importantly,, the personel you beleive will be utilized against this movement.
As for other tactic's, i think i have an idea of some very effective move's that are not anticipated...Mind you however,,these are just preliminary notion's in my head..I am not involved with any conspiratal effort. I can admit that these notion's are the result from past experience's and a life time of study. What you can infer from this is this..We American's are a resourcefull lot, and we adapt well to situation's. Although we love peacefull pursuit's, we are a warrior specicie's and with our African American warrior brother's, who are undeniably a warrior specicies as well as the intigration of the superior intellect of the American Oriental mind along with the Hispanac bravery, i think you underestimate our chance of sucsess. With these combined culture's come family support.
You see, as it is, i came to beleive in the world of diversity and over time i have seen the great possibillity from this combined culture. This is the part of the hope within the American dream. And with a threat now looming on the horizon, watch how we all come together and prevail.**HUMPHREY**
IT HAS NEVER BEEN IMPLEMENTED... YET :
What the heck is going on ?
THE TITLE OF THIS POST REF CONYERS COMPLAINT . DON'T EXACTLY KNOW YET IF FITZGERALD HAS BEEN FIRED, AND OR HIS INVESTIGATION STOPED. NO CONFIRMATION AND THE PDF FILE DIDN'T INDICATE CLEARLY WHAT IS UP??**HUMP**
PLEASE Keep me up to date on that one !!!
DISREGARD. IT WAS A FALSE ALERM. BASED ON A MISUNDERSTANDING REF THE ARTICLE. I APPOLOGIZE FOR MY CONTRIBUTION TO ANY PANIC.**HUMPHREY**
It's not related to the Fitzgerald investigation per se. The opening lines of the file are as follows:
We strongly dissent from the Majority’s decision to report unfavorably H. Res. 420, a resolution of inquiry directed to the Attorney General regarding the leak of the identity of a covert operative. By doing so, the Majority has abdicated the Committee’s responsibility to oversee the Justice Department and to ensure the faithful execution of the laws.
John Conyers, Jr.
Robert C. Scott
Adam B. Schiff
Anthony D. Weiner
Debbie Wasserman Schultz
Howard L. Berman
Sheila Jackson Lee
Melvin L. Watt
Linda T. Sanchez
Continuing, the Declaration of Independence says if the Government in any way oppresses the people (and I think we can agree that it has) it is not only our right but also our duty "to throw off such Government". Is physical force the only opposition? Is there no legal remedy? I truly doubt this because the courts have their gate keepers (you call them judges) and none get in because the truth will be exposed. Maybe we could ask the Supreme Court what they think since all of them are so unbiased. NOT! Well, most Americans won't even know what has hit them as long as football and beer are available.
HOW TRUE. The faith and hope i have in the rule of law is slowly eroded everyday. The last ray of hope, as i see it is in Patrick Fitzgerald. If his investigation is subsequently subverted, then i would then have no choice but to hold that physical confrontation is the last and final test for us all. I constantly wonder how much actual citizerny support this effort will enjoy, as what the final outcome might be after the smoke clears and silence is restored. And i wonder how many of us will still be around. I truly truly beleive this situation is close to occurence. Very close.**HUMPHREY**
and I do not know where else to post this, so here it goes:
Incredible new twist to the Able Danger hearings involving Posse Comitatus.
(On 9/21/2005 Jim Lehrer Report last night on PBS).
Attempts by Able Danger team members to share their information with the FBI was blocked by Pentagon lawyers. This we know already.
Ok , listen up, apparently Posse Comitatus Act was used to destroy information regarding Mohamed Atta al-Sayed (first suicide pilot into WTC ) months PRIOR to 9/11 .
I hope the above link does not disappear. Listen carefully to the testimony at the end of this audio of the hearing. Acting Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence Oversight got into wordplay with Alan Specter about Atta's citizenship , you gotta listen to this. Atta was NOT a US Citizen! How could Posse Comitatus even apply! How could they use PCA to destroy info on a NON-US citizen!
Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 protects US civilians on American soil from law enforcement by the military.
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