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Will we use the power we have on September 24?


By Mike Ferner

All last week I had a rare opportunity – to join several impressive speakers on the “Bring Them Home Now

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The loony left Conyers clowns don't scare me, who cares if I am getting kidney stones now? I own Washington.

What are all you people going to do? I am the man. The original "Turdblossom". I don't care if I have cancer, because see I am the news!

Nothing can stop me not even federal indictments.....You can't draw me away because Cindy Sheehan, she's a clown, there is no anti-war movement and you all are just loony losers.

I own everything.

You'll never stop me!! I can never be beat, so go away......I say screw you, what are ya going to do about it America?

What are you gonna do about it? Nixon forever!!!

Karl "C." Rove

Good Morning "Mr. Rove",

First, I'd like to welcome you to this website. I am surprised that you came out from behind the typical right wing annonymity that we regulars at ADS.org see.

Now, a man of your station in the administration should exhibit a little more restraint in your composition. I suspect your bosses may be a bit distressed with your rather blatant disdain for a large segment of the American public. You always seem to have been capable of controlling public opinion with your effective spin and discrediting of opponents.

Your post seems to indicate a desparation of sorts. Why do you feel the need to downplay and trivialize an "anti-war movement" that you write does not exist? If it doesn't exist, there should be no need to give it any thought.

It is more likely that you are feeling pressures from many directions, including Fitgerald's investigation. The Saturday display which is likely to force the idea of the Impeachment of your bosses on the mainstream media can not be overlooked.

So Karl, blow off as much steam as you want.

By the way, did I welcome you to the ADS.org site? Thanks for at least not hiding behind the tag "annonymous"!

and the Military-Industrial Complex , and if you listen carefully, he warned of elitists in the scientific-technological community as well (today, what we call "think tanks", such as PNAC). Click on below link and find "Eisenhower Farewell Address" and watch Ike speak:

http://www.heartbone.com/various/RedPillVideos.html#D41

»»» Oily Military Industrial Complex
Meacher Interview 7:45
Nightline - Iraqi Oil 21:41
Nightline - Iraq Oil War Aims 21:03
Eisenhower Farewell Address 30:00

Iv'e sat here for a few minites considering whether or not this is really Mr Rove. Logiclly, i suspect it is actually not Mr Rove that wrote the above text however, anyone may freely post any comments in this site,including Karl Rove. So,,on the remote possibility that the above is in fact Mr Rove who wrote these really immiture words,I'de like to take the opportunity to address this alledged Karl Rove. But unlike the alledged Mr Rove, i will remain respectfull because after all, you are considered innocent untill proven guilty in a court of law, to which i beleive you will be going to be involved in soon, sir.

I know you beleive that you will be protected from facing accountibillity. Protected by the bush administration, the PNAC, and probably other's. You probably think that Patrick Fitzgerald will be estopped. And i freely admit that is possible, and likely.

Mr Rove, you probably beleive that next years midterm election, as well as the "08" election will be subverted in your group's favor as was the 2001 and probably the 2004 election was, also. There is certainly evidence to substantiate that the past two national elections were subverted in your group's favor.

I suspect you also beleive that,,in order to subdue the American Population further, all that your group needs to do is employ the doctrine contained in Patriot I and II, and this will result in quashing any resistance.

Now here is something i don't think you have considered.

From a NRA report,i think, from 1986, there were 30 million American's in possession of 70 million top of the line assault weapons in this country. And don't fool yourself, nobody got rid of the twenty or thirty round magizines. These guys purchase ammo in thousand round lot's. The average owner keeps at least 1000 rounds on hand. A lot of these guys possess fed permits for full auto to include belt fed weapons. And you know that is the truth.

Now, in the matter regarding the issue of you relying on the regular army, and the NG and reserves to be used against any revolting group of American's, who revolt against you, after you subvert their reliance on the rule of law to bring you all to justice, forget that too. Why? because those are our son's,,our daughters,,our mother's,,and father's,, brother's and sister's. They will never side with your kind. They never have and never will. they'll know where their place is. i assure you. I've ask'ed at least one hundred. They all affirm they will never go against their own people. Not in the manner were discussing here.

Ill bet your asking youself just who the hell we think we are and im fixin to tell you here n now. WHO ARE WE? WERE AMERICANS. A FREE PEOPLE! FOR THE LAST 235 YEARS. AND WE ARE ASS KICKERS TOO. WE BEEN KICKIN ASS FOR BETTER THAN 235 YEARS. ASK THE BRITTISH, THE SPAINISH, THE FRENCH??, THE MEXICAN'S, THE NAZI'S, THE ITIALAN'S, THE JAPS, THE CHINESE, THE VIETNAMESE. OH YEAH, THEY KNOW THE TRUTH. THEY DIDN'T WHIP US. WE KICKED THEIR ASSE'S. BUT GOOD! THAT WAR WAS LOST BY HENRY KISINGER IN PARIS. NOT IN THE FIELD!
SO NOW HEAR THIS, MR KARL ROVE OF THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION AND THE GODDAMED PNAC AND WHOEVER ELSE DARES TO STAND BESIDE YOU FOOLS. WE DON'T KNOW ANY OTHER WAY TO LIVE EXCEPT AS A TOTALLY FREE PEOPLE. WE HAVE TOLORATED YOUR CORRUPTION SO FAR BECAUSE WE WOULD RATHER TOLORATE SOME ABUSES THAN HAVE TO RESORT TO SERIOUS ASS KICKIN. BUT I WARN YOU NOW THAT SLEEPING GIANT ADM YAMAMOTO REFERED TO AFTER PEARL HARBOR IS STARTING TO BE ROUSED AND IF AWAKEN AGAIN, GOD HELP YOU! YOU KNOW FULL WELL FROM HISTORY THAT ONCE UNLEASHED, THIS GIANT WILL NOT STOP TILL THAT WHICH WAS FOOLISH ENOUGH TO AWAKEN IT IS DESTROYED COMPLETELY. YOU KNOW HOW WE DO...AT THIS POINT,,IT SEEMS LIKE SOON IT WILL BE ON. GODDAMM YOU PNAC POEPLE ARE BEING SO CARELESS IN YOUR MISCALCULATION OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. DON'T YOU REALIZE WHAT YOUR GOING TO UNLEASH UPON YOURSELVE'S?**HUMPHREY**

to tell him he is a Big Turd and we are FREE!!! EVERYBODY, Be sure to watch the real IKE in his actual speech in my post to "Karl Rove". It is mesmerizing to see how wise this man was and how he foretold the problems of the Military-Industrial Complex, & the scientific-technological elitists (such as Wolfowitz). He cared enuf and tried his best to warn us>>> now that is a LEADER that everyone admires without the partisan rhetoric crap. I was alive during his speech but too young to remember. My Dad , a true-blue Democrat, always admired IKE, and never forgot his Farewell Address.

When it comes to confronting the menace of the Bush/Cheney regime, civil disobedience without knowledge of the truth will have little effectiveness against the facade of compelling lies, sheilding the Bush/Cheney regime. Now more than ever the opposition to Bush/Cheney must embrace the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth when it comes to the key scams of this most abomidable of administrations. The Bush/Cheney monster is a creature who draws its greatest strength from the 9/11 attacks. 9/11 has been wielded as a wrecking ball in Bush/Cheney's destruction of over 200 years of American constitutional government and civil liberties. 9/11 is also the club that they've used to beat down all opposition and they'll continue to try to use it as such. Last but not least, 9/11 is offered by Bush/Cheney as the most compelling reason for the disastrous wars in Afghanistan and Iraq! In this age of the Bush/Cheney Orwellian Federal Government, Americans have been completely fooled by official disinformation and massive deception on all things 9/11! An uncompromising Knowlege of the truth is the most effective weapon against such potent government deception and lies.

In order to build an effective opposition to the 9/11 empowered Bush/Cheney regime, Americans must become knowledgeable about the mountain of suppressed facts revealing 9/11 to be just as phony as the War in Iraq! It therefore makes little sense for people to embrace the Downing Street Memos, while completely denying or ignoring the suppressed facts that prove with equal veracity, that Bush/Cheney was complicit in the 9/11 attacks! This is the irrefutable truth, as confirmed by an impressive body of suppressed 9/11 facts, and independent research. Bush/Cheney has been so successful at selling the official 9/11 lie as the truth, too many Americans are as yet unwilling, or unable, to deal the facts that prove we've been deceived! Any so-called opposition that fails to grasp the vital importance of denying Bush/Cheney continued unchallenged sanctuary in their 9/11 hoax, is in reality, no opposition at all!

Then we need to start making an equal amount of noise about legitimizng the vote. NOW.

I have nothing but the highest praise for the true patriots in Washington who are fighting the good fight and exposing the Bush fraud. But if the people must wait until next November (which is highly likely) to vote all the bastards out and get the impeachment ball rolling, we must have confidence that our will is accurately reflected in that vote.

As you might recall (he notes with much sarcasm), we have not had a legitmate national election in this country for some time now.

If we allow ourselves to lazily fall back on the "we'll get'em in '06" mantra, then we're setting ourselves up for yet another election scam. With the stakes as high as they are, we just cannot let that happen.

Remember 2000 - When Dubya "won" Florida, and thus the presidency, by 537 votes, because the "Supreme" Court, instead of conducting a genuine quest for the truth, simply said "stop the recounting".

Remember 9/11 - The 56 warnings that were ignored, the 100 meetings that Condi Rice's National Security Council had before they got around to talking about terrorism, the August 6th Presidential Daily Brief (PDB) that Bush asked for then ignored because he had to get started on his vacation. You know, the one that said "Bin Laden determined to attack within the United States".

Remember the pre-war charade - Promises of "only as a last resort", fear mongering images of "Smoking gun in the form of a mushroom cloud", WMD and a nuclear "deal" between Iraq and Niger thet never existed, and on, and on, and on...

Remember May 1st, 2003 - "Mission Accomplished".

Remember 2004 - When in many Florida and Ohio districts on Election Day, Dubya got more "votes" than there were registered voters. And when in Warren County Ohio they took the unprecedented step of locking down the building where the votes were being counted, preventing any public viewing of process, because local officials there said there was a terror threat level of 10 on the building, but nobody from the FBI or Homeland Security had any knowledge of any such threat.

Remember Katrina.

We don't need a national voter ID card. We need voting results and government we can trust. Which is why the demand for legitimate elections must be ringing as loudly and clearly as the demand to end the war.

John Perry
http://www.johnperryonline.com

Then we need to start making an equal amount of noise about legitimizng the vote. NOW.

I have nothing but the highest praise for the true patriots in Washington who are fighting the good fight and exposing the Bush fraud. But if the people must wait until next November (which is highly likely) to vote all the bastards out and get the impeachment ball rolling, we must have confidence that our will is accurately reflected in that vote.

As you might recall (he notes with much sarcasm), we have not had a legitmate national election in this country for some time now.

If we allow ourselves to lazily fall back on the "we'll get'em in '06" mantra, then we're setting ourselves up for yet another election scam. With the stakes as high as they are, we just cannot let that happen.

Remember 2000 - When Dubya "won" Florida, and thus the presidency, by 537 votes, because the "Supreme" Court, instead of conducting a genuine quest for the truth, simply said "stop the recounting".

Remember 9/11 - The 56 warnings that were ignored, the 100 meetings that Condi Rice's National Security Council had before they got around to talking about terrorism, the August 6th Presidential Daily Brief (PDB) that Bush asked for then ignored because he had to get started on his vacation. You know, the one that said "Bin Laden determined to attack within the United States".

Remember the pre-war charade - Promises of "only as a last resort", fear mongering images of "Smoking gun in the form of a mushroom cloud", WMD and a nuclear "deal" between Iraq and Niger thet never existed, and on, and on, and on...

Remember May 1st, 2003 - "Mission Accomplished".

Remember 2004 - When in many Florida and Ohio districts on Election Day, Dubya got more "votes" than there were registered voters. And when in Warren County Ohio they took the unprecedented step of locking down the building where the votes were being counted, preventing any public viewing of process, because local officials there said there was a terror threat level of 10 on the building, but nobody from the FBI or Homeland Security had any knowledge of any such threat.

Remember Katrina.

We don't need a national voter ID card. We need voting results and government we can trust. Which is why the demand for legitimate elections must be ringing as loudly and clearly as the demand to end the war.

John Perry
http://www.johnperryonline.com

I agree with John above that our elections must count and that has been taken away with the black-box voting machines. The only way you can be sure at this point that who you voted for will get your vote is to vote absentee on a paper ballot. Diebold President promised Ohio to GWB in the fall of 2004 and he delivered on that promise because alot of counties used his machines.

Hey Johnny,

Now you think the Right stole ANOTHER election in 2004? You people can not accept any defeat can you? It was the Left that cheated like crazy all over this country and now that Jimmy Carter wants ID cards to vote you will come up with some other way cheat. MoveOn.org was an election fraud network paid for by George Soros and Co. This great idea got beat fair and square and you can't swallow that pill, STILL. Pathetic. Did you know that every illegal vote disenfranchises just as many good votes? You people want illegal immigrants to vote, you want people to vote in multiple districts and you want people to be able to vote that are dead. These are YOUR tactics, not mine.

What about all the warnings Clinton had in the 8 YEARS he was in office???? What about ABLE DANGER? What about the fact that Osama was offered to Clinton and he said no thanks??? What about the 4 ATTACKS that took place against the US on HIS WATCH???? What about the fact that he cut defense spending so mush that NORAD wasn't able to locate the final 2 planes fast enough??? 8 months vs 8 years is hard to argue who holds more resposibility you IDIOT!!!! I have read the 9-11 Commission too so I have more about Clinton if you want me to continue????? Why are you not asking him more questions about his failures in office on the terror issue???? Oh yeah, he is a Democrat... You people are such hypocrits...

Kerry got more votes in Wisconsin and Colorado Districts than there were registered voters too. Why don't you bring that up????? Oh yeah, he is a Democrat...

Remember what can happen when the local and state governements drop the ball on their constituents. Not the federal government in N.O. PLEASE remember Katrina...

Remember that JIMMY CARTER thinks it is a good idea to have national ID cards to STOP vote fraud. They'd be FREE so not to disenfranchise ANYONE that is a legal US citizen.

You people never cease to amaze me,

Richie "The Right Wing Kook" Rich

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/050921/diebold_outlook.html?.v=7
http://www.bushcheated04.com

KEEP SPINNING THE LIES, DIGGING THE HOLE, SINCE YOUR LAST THREE FRAUDULENT ELECTIONS!!!!!!!

It'll make your fall a true FALL from power.....

Doug E.

Thanks for the laugh Richie. I love your nonsensical rants.

For the record, I'm not a democrat.

And I didn't mention Kerry, didn't mention Move On, didn't mention Carter, and I don't want illegals or dead people to vote. You need to stop lumping everyone who disagrees with you into one category or you will never have any hope of gaining any credibility.

Jesus! Can you Bush lackeys do ANYTHING besides bring up Clinton (who I also didn't mention, by the way) when you're getting your ass kicked?

I'm talking about George W. Bush. And Yes, I'm talking about ANOTHER stolen election.

http://www.projectcensored.org/newsflash/voter_fraud.html

Love and Kisses Richie dearest,
JP
http://www.johnperryonline.com

P.S. -
sorry you folks had to read this crap, but Rich (if that's his real name) is too much of a pussy to leave any contact info with his posts.

Scientists predicted, shortly after Katrina, that it would be possible, until the end of this year, that another 3 Cat 4-5 Hurricanes could form in the Gulf Coast.

Rita is just around the corner, getting stronger by the hour. How much billions will she costs? 50, 100 billions? Who knows..

This is just the first of four hurricane seasons in Bush second term.

Nothing in recorded history indicates that the conditions that creates this monsters (global warming) are being properly addressed by the Federal Goverment.

So, Bush will be at the helm for the next possible 15 Katrina size hurricane.

Wait at your own peril.

Karl Rove has NO POWER!!!!!!!!! He is a weak, ignorant fat bufoon!!!!!!!!

A cancerous man!!!!!!!!!!! WE OWN THIS COUNTRY, NOT HIM. WE ARE THIS COUNTRY!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lets go out there and PROVE IT and show the whole damn world!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LETS TAKE THEM ALL DOWN!!!!!!!!!!

ROVE IS A FRAUD!!!!!!!! SO IS THE CORPORATE MEDIA!!!!!! Stop giving any power to them at all, and recognize them for being IRRELEVANT PIECES OF SHIT!!!!

Once you stop recognizing them, all their power dissapears. Rove is just a scared little cockroach of a man, his time is coming. His time has COME. So has it for ALL of PNAC, and we're going to bring them down!!!!!!!!!!!

Are you with me!??!?? GOOD!!!!!!!! Then start the drums IMMEDIATELY every day, and flood Congress until every represenative knows they will be replaced who voted AGAINST america!!!!!

http://www.congress.org/

LET THEM KNOW NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!! And flood every polling firm you can flood, to start discussing the word IMPEACHMENT!!!!!!!! Here's a full list: http://www.fair.org/

Lets get this on the road!!!!!!! DIEBOLD IS FAILING, THEY'RE ALL FALLING DOWN!!!!!!!! Lets make sure Henry Hyde, Hastert and his friends know they will be REPLACED AND RECALLED!!!!!!!!!

WE'RE BACK!!!!!!!!!!! LETS HIT THE STREETS!!!!!

Doug

You are such a pottie mouth all the time.

Congress-people know that the majority of the country voted for them in 2000, 2002, 2004 and will again in 2006. You know that this means another loss for your side???

You are the minority, you just have bigger mouths. You're the hippes of the new era. Not the Right like some prior blogger seemed to think. We are smarter than you think we are. We just don't bitch as much...

Impeachment, Impeachment, Impeachment, blah, blah, blah... You need proof to impeach someone, not a bunch of conspiracy theories and the DSM's. Go look at the Clinton impeachment hearings, we had proof against him, not made up crap like you people.

I love coming on this site, it is much more out there than the others I visit. I feel like I am in outer space here. And it isn't the $80 bottle of Cab I am drinking...

Richie "The Right Wing Kook" Rich

Kookie,

I see you posted again today so you are still out there hiding behind a fake handle.

I still here and I have been for several weeks. Why no e-mail from you with your real ID?

You deride Doug who has the courage to identify himself for you to weakly attempt to vilify in the usual Rovian manner. Come on Kookie, come out of the right wing closet. I asked you yesterday what you are afraid of and still no e-mail from you!

Don't tell me you're also a "chickenhawk" just like your heroes Bush and Cheney! But I guess you are.

So here it is again:

Dear Dick (I mean Richard),

I know you would really love me to crack under your pressure and reveal my real name but how stupid do you think I am? You Lefties are a crazy bunch. You’d probably be sending me hate mail at my house beginning tomorrow. I know how you lefties HATE… I read this site everyday, it is impressive. That leads me to another question, why do you people spend so much energy trying to impeach Bush? Why don’t you use that energy to find solutions to all the “problems

You're a obsolete moron and anyone would kick your ass!!!!!!! SO SHUTUP!!!!!!!!!!!

We're fighting on the side of the constitution and you're on the side of....OH RIGHT NOTHING!!!!!!!! SO SHUTUP YA STUPID KID, AKA "HACK"

NOBODY WON ANYTHING in any of those years, not 2000 and NOT 2004 since the VOTE Fraud began. I heard your ham sandwhich friend just got what came to him IDIOT!!!!!!!

http://dailydelay.blogspot.com

Go join him in the new BASE, where all you little cockroaches are going to be ONCE THE STUPID BASTARDS GET BEATEN BACK!!!!!!!!!

This is the end of FASCISM, we are America and all the little sady hawkins dropouts are GOING DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/050921/diebold_outlook.html?.v=7
http://impeachbushcoalition.blogspot.com/

Today forged in the heart of every true citizen, comes the END OF THE GAME CALLED FASCISM ONCE AND FOR ALL

Doug Eldritch

Again, your words are so full of hate... Is that why you keep losing elections???? Hate never wins my socialist comrade...

You Lefties talk tough but you NEVER back up your words with anything but conspiracy theories and bogus information that NEVER turns out to be true.

Good luck with the impeachment!!!!

Richie "The Right Wing Kook" Rich

HATE? The words of ANGER are working to WIPE out your fascism, so don't play games little man.

Howard Dean and the progressives are taking everything back, and are going to permanently do away with this crap and its helped them all. EVERY progressive who has stood up and said no more, has HELPED THEM ALL GET ELECTED!!!!!!!!!!!

You think we want little whiny brats in congress like Dianne Feinstein!!??? They're just as BAD!!!!! Paul Hackett needs to be in every seat, and that's what WE progressives are going to make sure happens!!!!!!!!

Anger at our country becoming a fucking mess, that's what. And we're going to TEAR it back out of their death-squad.

Doug E.

My brother is named Richard and I hope I am not talking to him. If that were the case I would be all over his ass. Look at your self, look at this government! We are talking about respect for human life, respect for the constitution, respect for values that protect the integrety of every American. This government wants to take that away FROM YOU! Not just the democrats. Don't you get it. COMPANYS are making trillions of dollars in this administration, with out being taxed. Where is your anger, people died in New O'rleans because the government appointed a horse director as head of FEMA! You can bet that we are pissed and we are more then pissed. Look a child in the eye who lost a parent because Bush lied! Yes, we are pissed!

Whoever you are, you are an idiot. If I was your bro, I'd take you out back and knock some sense into you. But I am not, so lucky for you.

This gov't doesn't want to take anything from ME you dumba$$ or you!!! Just because I can see you are too stupid to know this by what you wrote. COMPANYS made MORE MONEY UNDER CLINTON you ingorant, inept retard!!!!

People died in New Orleans BECAUSE THE LOCAL AND STATE GOVERNMENTS FAILED!!!!! FEMA HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT!!!! They are NOT A FIRST RESPONDER you fuckin dope!!! You have to be a woman to be this stupid...

Bush never lied you moron. He only presented intell that was given to him form the CIA/FBI. Call them the liars not Bush. Clinton presented this same info in 1998, is he a liar too????

You have to be the dumbest person to ever write me anything and I am done with you. You are making me dumber just responding to you. I must go have a drink now...

THANKS!!!!

Richie "The Right Wing Kook" Rich

My brother is named Richard and I hope I am not talking to him. If that were the case I would be all over his ass. Look at your self, look at this government! We are talking about respect for human life, respect for the constitution, respect for values that protect the integrety of every American. This government wants to take that away FROM YOU! Not just the democrats. Don't you get it. COMPANYS are making trillions of dollars in this administration, with out being taxed. Where is your anger, people died in New O'rleans because the government appointed a horse director as head of FEMA! You can bet that we are pissed and we are more then pissed. Look a child in the eye who lost a parent because Bush lied! Yes, we are pissed!

A 40% approval rating for your puppet president actually puts YOU in the minority.

Are you actually claiming there is no evidence to bring impeachment proceedings against Bush? What planet are you on man?

Every single lame-ass reason he has given for this bullshit war has been blown to pieces. He LIED to Congress, Rich. That's a felony, and THAT'S what the DSMs prove, no matter how much you and the rest of the Bush apologist army try to trash them.

Nobody needed an impeachment hearing to prove that Clinton got a hummer in the Oval Office. But when it comes to the question of whether or not the president lied his country into war, and people are actually DYING every day as a result, we MUST have an impeachment hearing.

Wake up, dumbass. And save some of your Cab. You're going to need it.

John Perry
http://www.johnperryonline.com

I loved the math of these same polls that told you that Kerry was winning. That is what these polls mean to me.

If you did some SIMPLE research you would see that war-time president's approval ratings almost always go down. People in the US are by nature impatient. So yes I am on this planet, I might be right next door????

The DSM's prove NOTHING. How in the world can you even THINK that these "mintues" are valid? There is no proof that they are for real or did you forget that these docs are a typed copy of a photocopy of the originals and those photocopies were destroyed. That gives them about as much credibility as the RatherGate docs. You people are something else. I thought the attorney's of america support you??? They would be the first to tell you that crap like this would NEVER hold up in a court of law. And you know it.

You people are all about emotion, nothing more. That is another reason you can't win. It has nothing to do with vote fraud much to Dougie's denail. It was your side cheating in 2004 and YOUR Supreme Court that wouldn't hear the case in 2000, not mine. But my Supreme Court is coming and it beigns with Roberts, a man smarter that everyone on this put together, including myself.

Good luck with the impeachment, Bush never LIED he presented the information that the CIA/FBI gave him. Clinton used the SAME info in 1998 and gain the approval of Congress to go to war but was too bug of a candya$$. But you people won't talk about that, will you?

Richie "The Right Wing Kook" Rich

Who are you talking about? I as have said, I am not a democrat. Yet another testament to your lack of credibility.

About Polls: Presidential election exit polls have been "wrong" only twice. 2000 and 2004. What a surprise.

Speaking of "simple research", your simplistic approach to Bush's approval rating is further evidence that you're just another apologist running scared. It's not down simply because we're at war. It's down because every reason he has given for this disaster has been proven to be wrong, and because he refuses to reveal ANY kind of exit strategy, which some "SIMPLE RESEARCH" will tell you is crucial to the success of any military conflict.

Sorry buddy, but you are just plain wrong about the DSM's and you always will be. Their authenticity was confirmed by Tony Blair long ago, and not one person present at any of the meetings has come forward to refute their contents. If they were fakes, we would have heard a LOT more about it. The original minutes were recorded and copies were made for everyone in attendance at the British cabinet meetings. Michael Smith made his typed copies from one set of these actual meeting copies (so identifying marks and notes made by the person who leaked them would not be revealed), and returned the originals. They were not destroyed. And if they're fakes, why can't Dubya summon up the nerve to respond to the 130 members of Congress and 575,000 citizens who signed the letter with specific questions about them? What's your "big balls" president afraid of Richie?

FYI about emotion: Anger is an emotion, and a LOT of people have good reason to be plenty pissed at this manchurian president.

As far as the Supreme Court goes, you're wrong again. It was the right-leaning USSC that in 2000 simply said "stop the recounting in Florida", effectively appointing Bush to the presidency. Last time I checked, the mission when you went to court was to find the truth.

The jury is still out on Roberts. Regardless of his smarts or ideology, I don't understand how you take a guy with no discernable judicial record (just two years on the federal bench) and make him chief justice of the Unites States Supreme Court. Makes no sense, and doesn't pass the smell test.

"The intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy". That's the bombshell from the DSMs, the authenticy of which, again, NOBODY in the British or American government has disputed. And THAT'S the reason "you people" are scared shitless of them.

Finally, and this should not be construed as support for Clinton (because I NEVER have), but he did not want to commit US troops to ousting Saddam. He wanted to appropriate funds to help Iraqi rebels do it themselves.

Give it up Rich. You're supporting a completely fraudulent president and YOU know it.

If you want to see another response from me, grow some balls and send me an email.

John Perry
http://www.johnperryonline.com

This was your media jumping the gun twice 2000 & 2004. They wanted a dem to win SO badly they couldn't keep their mouths shut.

How am I "wrong" about the DSM's? Where is their coverage in your media? If they were "authentic" your media would be all over them and you know it. Blair NEVER said they were valid. He admitted that SOME of the info was legit but NEVER said that the part about them fixing the info to go to war was valid. Here you people go trying to spin another doc to push your cause. The US doesn't waste anytime defending itself over these docs because they are:

A TYPED COPY OF AN "ORIGINAL" DOCUMENT THAT WAS "DESTROYED" TO HINDER ANY "POLICE INVESTIGATION." That doesn't sound like authenitc material to me but I am not "trying" to impeach anyone either. According to the research I have done those copies were destroyed and that is why my "Big Balls" president won't waste his time on them. Trust me on this, if they were valid and did imply some wrong doing by W, your media would be all over it, day & night, until they got answers. You know it and I know it. But keep the dream alive. You may want to get a little more than 575,000 people to sign this petition or whatever it is. That amounts to 2 tenths of 1% of the population of the country. And you are the majority????

At least Roberts will use the US Constitution to make his desicions and not FOREIGN law. He is a moderate Conservative, you should be happy about this. He is no Thomas. You don't need to have been a judge to be nominated for the supreme court. You need knowledge about the laws of THIS land and there is no better qualified from that perspective than him.

I am not "scared shitless" over the DSM's. I laugh at them as they have NEVER been AUTHENICATED. Please send me the link that has ALL the pages of the ORIGINAL minutes. I'd like to see them if they are out there. If they are not, shut the hell up about them. Typed COPIES of ANYTHING are far from a SMOKING GUN...

Clinton got attacked 4 times by al Quieda (or however you spell it) and he did NOTHING. Iraqi rebels stood no chance against Saddam...No matter how much money we gave them.

I honestly DON'T know that I am supporting a fraud. I am still waiting for the left to find me a real "smoking gun" and when they do and I have researched it, I may change my mind? But I am all about PROOF, not conspiracy theories because I HATE someone.

I've got balls, I just know the dirty games you people play.

Richie "The Right Wing Kook" Rich

HATE? The words of ANGER are working to WIPE out your fascism, so don't play games little man.

THE DSMs AREN'T A CONSPIRACY THEORY!!!!!!!!! THEY ARE THE PROOF THESE FREAKS USED 9/11 AS A PLOY, AND MADE UP THE IRAQ WAR FROM THEIR TREASON-RELATED OIL DEAL!!!!!

Howard Dean and the progressives are taking everything back, and are going to permanently do away with this crap and its helped them all. EVERY progressive who has stood up and said no more, has HELPED THEM ALL GET ELECTED!!!!!!!!!!!

You think we want little whiny brats in congress like Dianne Feinstein!!??? They're just as BAD!!!!! Paul Hackett needs to be in every seat, and that's what WE progressives are going to make sure happens!!!!!!!!

Anger at our country becoming a fucking mess, that's what. And we're going to TEAR it back out of their death-squad.

Doug E.

Good News from the Big Easy!

FEMA Employees Lynched for Looting in New Orleans

September 17, 2005
by Joel Carlin
FKK

New Orleans- The badly mangled bodies of three FEMA workers were discovered two days ago, hanging from a tree inside the courtyard of a French Quarter apartment. The bodies, found by U.S. Military Police units engaged in searching for survivors, bore crudely written placards that read, “FEMA THIEF-DIE,

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