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by Bob Fertik

On Wednesday, Republicans had their chance to save George Bush from impeachment.

And, as Steve Cobble describes, they threw it away.

Since the Downing Street Minutes were published on May, progressives have demanded to know whether the central allegation of those Minutes was true: that the pre-war intelligence and facts were being fixed around Bush's policy of invading Iraq, whether or not Iraq had any WMD's or any connection to 9/11.

We have generated hundreds of thousands of emails, letters and calls to Congress. On July 23, we held Downing Street Memo events all around the country with leading Members of Congress, and had to turn people away. On September 14, we united all 20 Democrats on the House International Relations Committee - including many who voted for the war - to vote for Barbara Lee's Resolution of Inquiry (H.Res 375) for the White House to turn over all documents that would confirm or refute the truth of the Downing Street Memos. We even persuaded one conscientious Republican - Rep. Jim Leach of Iowa - to join them.

But when the vote was counted, those 21 defenders of the truth were defeated by 22 Republican defenders of lies.

In a delicious twist of fate, the leading defender of George Bush's lies about Iraq was none other than Henry Hyde - the former chair of the House Judiciary Committee who led the Impeachment of President Clinton in 1998 not because he had consensual sex with Monica Lewinsky - but because he lied about it.

Which brings us right to the point: under the Constitution of the United States, is it worse to lie about sex or to lie about war?

Every American can lie about sex, and most do - including lots of Congressmen. (Henry Hyde, who was the leading opponent of legal abortion in Congress, had a 4-year extramaterial affair with Cherie Snodgrass, which destroyed her marriage. Newt Gingrich was having a torrid extramarital affair with a young staffer named Callista Bistek even as he was leading the charge to impeach Bill Clinton.) Lying about sex is not a "high" crime under the Constitution - it's about as "low" a crime as a President or a Congressman can commit.

But only one American can lie to start a war - the President.

George Bush's lies about Iraq didn't stain a blue dress - they stained the red, white and blue flag of the United States of America.

Conservatives consider the flag so precious that they want to send people to jail for burning a single one. Bush didn't stain one American flag - he stained every American flag in the United States - and around the world.

Thanks to George Bush's lies, the flag which originally stood for liberty against imperialism, and later stood for liberty against fascism, now stands for imperialism and fascism in the eyes of billions.

And thanks to George Bush's lies, the flag now drapes the coffins of nearly 2,000 of America's bravest and most patriotic young men and women, including Cindy Sheehan's beloved son Casey.

Thanks to the coverup engineered by Henry Hyde and his 21 Republican cronies, George Bush will never have to explain his Iraq War lies to Congress and the American people.

Without a truthful explanation, the American people can only assume the worst - that Bush deliberately committed the following crimes:

  1. In July 2002, Bush deliberately diverted $700 million from the authorized war in Afghanistan to provoke an unauthorized war in Iraq, including a criminal bombing campaign
  2. On March 18, 2003, Bush deliberately lied to Congress when he claimed in writing that continued U.N. inspections would endanger the national security of the U.S. and undermine enforcement of U.N. Resolutions, and that Iraq planned or aided the attacks of September 11, 2001
  3. By invading Iraq without any threat or just cause, Bush launched a War of Aggression in violation of U.S. obligations under the U.N. Charter
  4. In the conduct of the War, Bush violated the Geneva conventions by failing to protect civilians (including journalists) and by authorizing torture of prisoners

On the basis of these now-undisputed high crimes, Congress must immediately begin to impeach George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, and every other high official who participated in these crimes.

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"On the basis of these now-undisputed high crimes, Congress must immediately begin to impeach George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, and every other high official who participated in these crimes".
This is a NO DUH statement. While I support the DSM and have followed progress on this site since its inception I think it is time to re-evalute the strategy to get rid of George Bush et al. First of all we have to answer how soon we want him out. Most would say "yesterday"!! Second lets look at the ways to remove him from office. There are two legimitate ways(though I am sure we could think of many other ways). One is easy and will happen..as Letterman said last night in a news flash. "George Bush has resigned effective Lanuary 20, 2009." In order to embrace this way we would have to put up with "business as usual" for another 3 years or so. My question is this...Can we afford to wait? I don't think so. If we wait what can we expect, All the troops home safe from Iraq per the long awaited withdrawal plan? Improvement of our image on the world stage courtesy of John Bolton and Karen Hughes? Punishment of any of those others in high places who have knowingly participated in the decline of this great country like Karl Rove? More investigative journalism to question bad or questionable government policies? More protection for the environment like reversing the roadless rule and drilling in ANWR. More fuel efficient cars to lessen the effects of global warming? I could go on but should I? The second way is to concentrate totally and completely on Impeachment Now. Resolutions like HR 375 are helpful but based on what happened can anyone really say that it has helped get rid of Bush any sooner? Cindy's efforts mostly helped galvanize the sleeping and frustrated antiwar movement. All of this is good and we could contine in this vein. Maybe public opinion of Bushco will continue to decline in the upcoming months and we could take back either the House or Senate and then on to 2008. Pipe Dream? Maybe but my point is this. WE CANNOT, AMERICA CANNOT, THE WORLD CANNOT AFFORD TO WAIT THAT LONG. I BELIEVE THIS COUNTRY WILL BE EMOTIONALY, FINANCIALLY, AND MORALLY BANKRUPT IF WE DO NOT GET RID OF THESE PEOPLE NOW. We still have a chance to do something and that is to support the rallies on Sept 24th. If these rallies turn out a lot of people and the MSM reports it (and I believe it will) it will be a tremendous high for all of us. But if this high is not transformed into concentrated efforts to start Impeachment Proceedings in the House it will all have been in vain.

In response to your well worded post(above) i submit the following...
I regret to inform you that this week,,we observed the extent to which we can expect from Congress. You state further that an action to remove this corrupt administration is immediatly necessary, that we cannot, that the world cannot,, wait. I don't disagree with that statement. What i regretfully disagree with is your continued assumption that any further demands place upon this Congress will have any needed effect. sir, i refer you to my above post's.
**GUESS WHO**

I can not believe that no one in washington will stand up against this adim.of bush and company.What a disgrace.

RICH, I ESPECIALLY HOPE YOU READ THIS.

EVERYONE WHO HAS READ ALL THE ABOVE, CONSIDER THIS:
Ask your self this. Why didn't the resolution receive more dem support? Did every dem member of the house throw in with this resolution of inquiry? I think absolutely not. Is anyone wondering why? Who, with an abundance of so much evidence that proves beyond doubt that the Bush Administration is corrupt, and actually can't govern, how could any elected representitive in either house still stand with any support for this administration? These are not stupid men and women!

There can only be one reason why any member of congress or senate would remain firmly supportive of this administration. "MONEY"
Money received from the same corporation's that are actually the power and authority behind the Bush Administration.

After all! You watch President Bush. You listen to him. Observe his gesture's and body language. Consider the monumental mess he has made around the world. He has a track record of accomplashing absolutely nothing constructive in any endeavor he has ever undertaken. Every endeavor he ever undertook, his whole life befor becomming president, ended in total failure.

Yet, look at the amount of congressional as well as senate support the Bush Administration enjoys! When you consider the above paragraph, only money could be behind the support this man presently has. BIG MONEY! Only big money could compel congressperson's and senator's alike to just pretend that the Bush Administration is actally worthy of their support. There is no actual merit for this support.

There is one other probability to consider in all this. I submit that this power and authority, that hides in the shadow, and actually commands and controls this administration and the majority in both house's, is the same power and authority that had President Keneddy killed. (setting asside any of the conspiracie's, lets assume that Oswald was alone...BUT,,, ill never except that Oswald was acting on his own initiative. NOT EVER)

So, my point is, that beside being bought off, these congressperson's and senator's must be under the perception, that no matter how poor the performance is,,of the Bush Administration, and no matter how bad the continueing support for this Administration may make them all look, publiclly, their must be some perceived notion of death for them or their familie's if they fail in doing what they have been "BOUGHT OFF" to do no matter what. Because after all, all things considered, only a blind idiot could still be willing to give this kind of support to this current administration. I submit that their has been a high percentage of representitives who sold their soul to the Devil and entered into a death pact. Why else would men and women of appearrently good sense continue to support what is openly a inept and corrupt administration? Somrthing to consider.**GUESS WHO?**

and the facts state, repetitively, that bushco are criminals in every sense of the word. Factor in the befuddling, er, "response" to Katrina, and you've got a pattern of behavior!

Factor, also, into this sordid equation the FACT that the neoKKKon agenda is to eliminate government as we know it (especially the New Deal and all that it represents and serves), and we're looking at yet MORE of this pattern of egocentric, ethnocentric, selfish, ME ME ME-ism-type of behaviors, and I TRULY believe that "they" are deliberately, and calculatingly dismantling our country!!!

How ANYBODY in our government is allowing this to continue without ANY TYPE OF FIGHT is dumbfounding.....and tragically sad....

I truly wonder if every single member of our government, repub and dem alike, are all bought and paid for....or if they are really working for US! Yes, I understand that Congressman Conyers is doing his best with the letter writing and stuff...and it IS critical that documents be logged into the congressional record....but all that happens is that a letter is published...and then swept under that proverbial rug.

I am SO SICK AND TIRED OF THIS!!!!!!!!!!!

I just want my country back!

Is that REALLY too much to ask?????

Who is george w. bush anyway, a punk assed spoiled, undisciplined, BRAT of all brats that was handed silver spoon after silver spoon??? My GOD...it is just pathetic.....we'd all have been done a great service if just one of those spoons got lodged into his....

okay....that's enough....can't go on....

just too pissed to put anymore into writing....

all I can say is that this is NOT what I expected to encounter as I bring my own children into this world...I mourn for their existence and what they will have to endure because of the WASTE OF DNA THAT WE HAVE THROUGHOUT WASHINGTON DC.....and at this point, the DEMS are included.

Who is left to give US a voice?

ANSWER: Smith&Wesson, Colt, Remington, Heckler& Kotch, Ruger and America's favorite, Winchester. They done it before, and they stand ready to do it again. All that is further needed is men with courage, and resolve. It's stated in the constitution that the right to address tyrany in this government is possessed in this manner. It is now just a matter of the lawer's admitting that dialog has failled to be the effective and prefered manner to address this tyranny. now, it's up to the young men of this country. I wish i was twenty again.**guess who?**

You know, I've sat here all summer and listened to all the rhetoric' And i've certainly added more than my fair share'
Im practiclly on first name basis with my senator, i've emailled him so much, and he back to me. The fact is, we've lost our country.
and we'll never get recovery in the manner in which we have so far employed. In fact, all i beleive now is it will get progressively worse. Why? ill tell you why. Because this country is made up of nothing but pussie's. i said it before, and now im gonna repeat it again. The point of dialog having any usefullness has long since past. Their not listing to us. In fact, their laughing at us. Their rolling on the ground, laughing! They stole the election's ! Just ask computer programer Mr Clinton Curtis, of Tallahassee Flordia. He testified that he wrote a program that was covertly inserted into the Flordia State Election Commission's main frame processer that subverted the 2000 Flordia election. If that states election was invalad, then the entire national 2004 election was also invalid.
THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION HAS DEMONSTRATED REPEATEDLY NO ABILITY TO GOVERN! THOUSAND'S HAVE DIED, WHAT HAVE WE DONE? TALKED TOUGH! OHH YEAH! WERE GONNA GET THEM ALRIGHT! NEXT ELECTION! FOR SURE! YEAH RIGHT! WHEN IT DOESEN'T HAPPEN THEN WHAT? 8 MORE YEARS OF WHINNING AND MORE TALK!

I'VE LIVED MY LIFE RESPECTING LAW N ORDER. I/VE PAID MY TAXES. I DID MY TIME IN THE MILLITARY. I WENT TO THE POLLS AND VOTED. I DIDN'T COLLECT WELLFARE, EVEN WHEN I NEEDED IT. LAST NITE, WHEN I STATED THAT THE DEFINITION OF FASCISM IS CLEARLY EXIBITED BY THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION, I WAS TOLD THAT IF I DIDN'T LIKE IT HERE, THEN GET THE HELL OUT! I COULDA, I SHOULDA KICKED THIS GUYS ASS OFF!FOR SAYING THAT TO ME. THIS PUSSY NEVER SERVED A DAY IN THE MILLITARY EXCEPT FOR CIVIL WAR REENACTMENT'S THAT HE THINKS CONSTITUTE SOME SORT OF SERVICE. HE PUTS ON THAN BLUE UNIFORM AND THINKS HE IS A SOLDIER. (YOU WANNA IMPRESS ME ASSHOLE, PUT BALLS IN THOSE MUSKETS FOR REAL) NO I DIDN'T KICK HIS PUNK ASS. I WALKED AWAY FROM THE PUNK ASS NEOCON CAUSE IF I HAD TORE IN TO HIM, I'DE HAVE RIPPED HIS FREAKIN HEAD OFF AND SPAT INTO THE HOLE! HE WASEN'T PREPARED TO BACK THAT TOUGH TALK WITH ANY ASS. CAUSE HE DIDN'T HAVE ANY. NONE OF THEM REALLY HAVE ANY ASS. BUT THEY GOT GALL! LOTS OF THAT.

BUT YOU KNOW WHAT EVERYONE? I MAY JUST LEAVE. I MIGHT GO TO AMSTERDAMM AND HANG OUT IN ONE OF THEM HASH BARS I'VE HEARD ABOUT.
ANYBODY CARE TO JOIN ME? WE'LL LISTEN TO HENDRICS"ALL ALONG THE WATCH TOWER". AMERIKA! LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT,,!FUCK ALL YOU ASSHOLE'S!
I LEFT IT A LONG TIME AGO!!

OK NOW. ALL YOU PUSSIES START RESPONDING WITH ALL YOUR LAME REBUTAL, FOR WHATALL I'VE SAID HERE. IM WAITIN.**GUESS WHO?**

Hey man…I understand your anger and anguish…and I sympathize with you one hundred percent. I think there are very few on this site that will say they disagree. Our country is progressively spiralling toward earth…faster and faster…and the pilot is fast asleep at the wheel. You can't help but wonder how long it will take before either the plans smacks the ground...or the passengers bust into the cabin and take control of that throttle.

Well, if they want to have some sort of future for their kids, they better get moving and seize the control's of this descending acft before there is a high speed collision with terrain.**GUESS WHO?**

Hey man…I understand your anger and anguish…and I sympathize with you one hundred percent. I think there are very few on this site that will say they disagree. Our country is progressively spiralling toward earth…faster and faster…and the pilot is fast asleep at the wheel. You can't help but wonder how long it will take before either the plans smacks the ground...or the passengers bust into the cabin and take control of that throttle.

If you read all the comments in certain subject's in ads,org, it becomes obvious that a sufficient number of Americans acknowledge that they except that the 2001 elections were illegally subverted.
If one excepts that this is factual, (based on evidence) then it goes without saying that the 04 election was invalid. Add that to the evidence that demonstrates corruption,,the lack of propper administration,, inability to properly govern,, the resulting loss of life,, and libertie's,, with any legal recourse having been subverted,,i submit to all legal minds in attentendence to consider that we now find ourselves faced with the total corruption in our three branches of federal government, well entrenched, and that these corruption's ,,this exact type of tyranny,, was well understood by the author's of our great constitution,, and therefore,, with this understanding,, they included, within the language of the constituion,,certain "last resort" remedies,, shall be at the disposal of the people. (you all know what im refering to-if you don't then go study your constitution!)

I truly regret that the condition's and circumstance's of tyranical government, described by our forefather's have now become a reality...We have only ourselves to blame, and only we can make this right through the excercise of the last resort method described in the constitution. God help us. **GUESS WHO**

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