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Leave my family alone


by Cindy Sheehan on DailyKos
Mon Aug 15th, 2005 at 01:44:40 PDT

I apparently am the sacrificial lamb of the peace movement. I don't care about myself. Putting myself in the forefront and daring to challenge the president on his lies left myself open to the attacks. Which are, of course, half truths and distortions.

When they start sliming my home life and my family, that's where I draw the line. Yes, my husband has filed for divorce and yes he filed before I left for the VFP Convention and this trip to Crawford and yes IT IS BETWEEN MY HUSBAND AND I.

Having Casey murdered in Iraq by George Bush's reckless policies has been hard enough on my family, but me setting off on my holy war to bring the troops home, my constant absences, and all of the media attention has put additional stresses on my family.

I chose my path after Casey died. The rest of the family has chosen theirs. We all still love each other and support each other in anything that we do. We didn't want Casey to join the Army, but once he made that decision, we supported him and even encouraged him through boot camp.

We are a normal American family who have had good times, bad times, and terrible times. We hope the good times will come back. We hope that we will be able to laugh with abandon together like we used to one day. We hope that the troops come home and no other families have to go through what we are going through.

It isn't about politics for us. No one asked Casey what political affiliation he was before they sent him off to die in Iraq and no one asked us who we voted for in 2000 before we were handed a folded flag from Casey's flag-draped coffin.

I am not perfect and I never even claimed to be perfect. My family isn't perfect, but we are pretty special...especially the children. We all miss Casey so much and it is George Bush and his neocon cabal who is at fault. The people who are dragging my family through the mud need to grow up and look at themselves. The Christ said: "He who is without sin, cast the first stone."

If everyone followed Jesus's advice, the world would be a much better place.
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Total Coalition Forces 2,042 DEAD.
US Forces 1,850 Dead

Civilians, best estimate 100,000 DEAD

Wounded and maimed for life, uncounted hundreds of thousands!

She stood her ground and she faced him down, the great American cowboy.
With a mothers love for a murdered son, in a blistering sun, now with some, but at first with none. She stands there.
She stands there for mothers with sons to lose, she stands there for sons who still can choose. She stands there for me who's witnessed their crimes, and she stands there for you, putting herself on the line.
with determination and burning patriotism seldom seen in our time, she stands there.
With the sorrow of thousands of mothers and fathers and brothers and sisters and children and wives and friends and unborn babies and unknown potential endlessly weighing on her shoulders she stands there.
With the weight of attack ads and Republican talking points and mindless pundits mouthing the rhetoric of their masters, she stands there.
Our statue of liberty. Holding high in her hand the torch of her conviction. a picture of the son she sacrificed. And standing resolutely in her harbor of freedom she cries, "WE are your tired, your poor, your huddled masses, yearning to be free".
And like Lady liberty to NY harbor, Cindy Sheehan is to this nation. A beacon to those with hope that there will be an accounting for those responsible.
And as a beacon in a long dark night we are drawn there. if not in body, then in mind and spirit. United, We Stand our ground and we will face him down, This great American cowboy.

Bren Alleman

As the mother of a soldier who has been to Iraq (and would like to go back for numerous reasons), I can only offer my most heartfelt sympathies to another mother whose son gave his life in the service of our country...so others might have the same freedoms we often take for granted...so those in this country might continue to have those same freedoms forever. There's no way of knowing how I might react if my son had been killed (not murdered) in the line of duty, the duty he felt honored and obligated to do. There are so many levels of emotionalism to be dealt with but I have to go to the bottom line. As my son signed the Soldier's Creed, so Cindy's son did the same. He knowingly and, I hope, proudly, committed himself to doing the best he could in order to become the best, helping the US to stay the best.

Please read the Army Soldier's Creed:

Soldier's Creed

I am an American Soldier.

I am a Warrior and a member of a team. I serve the people of the United
States and live the Army Values.

I will always place the mission first.

I will never accept defeat.

I will never quit.

I will never leave a fallen comrade.

I am disciplined, physically and mentally tough, trained, and proficient
in my Warrior tasks and drills.

I always maintain my arms, my equipment, and myself.

I am an expert, and I am a professional.

I stand ready to deploy, engage, and destroy the enemies of the United
States of America in close combat.

I am a guardian of freedom and the American way of life.

I am an American Soldier.
COPYRIGHT 2003 U.S. Army Maneuver Support Center
COPYRIGHT 2004 Gale Group

Always,
SRL
Proud Army Mom Of Cpl Brian, USAREC
"One Nation Under God" & "God Bless America"
Praying for our soldier/herores 24/7/365

Please see a little book "War is a Racket" by Smedley Butler, Major General US Marine ret. http://lexrex.com/enlightened/articles/warisaracket.htm

New Soldier's Creed, revised in 1950, or so.....

I am an American Soldier.

I am a Warrior and a member of a team. I serve the wealthy and powerful multi-national corporations and live the Army Values.

I will always place the mission first, even when I don't comprehend or agree with it.

I will never accept defeat.

I will never quit.

I will never leave a fallen comrade.

I am disciplined, physically and mentally tough, trained, and proficient in my Warrior tasks and drills.

I always maintain my arms, my equipment, and myself.

I am an expert, and I am a professional.

I stand ready to deploy, engage, and destroy the enemies of multi-national corporations and their shareholders in close combat.

I am a guardian of their wealth and power and their way of life.

I am an American Soldier.

Now, THAT is something by which to be truly offended. You insult the intelligence of every single person who signs the creed. You belittle the spirit of every-day heroes by your suggestions. And, to denigrate all companies who do business w/foreign countries is, what, naive at best. Would you be one who would do away with our military altogether?

SRL
Proud Army Mom Of Cpl. Brian USAREC
"One Nation Under God" & "God Bless America"
Praying for our soldier/heroes 24/7/365

There is nothing wrong with the soldier's creed, except that this war was an unlawful aggression against a country that had nothing to do with 9/11 and who was contained by the sanctions against it. Our young men and women who are dying in Iraq's killing fields are protecting neither America nor the Constitution of the United States. I beg you to look at the evidence of lies and deceit with a critical eye...THEN, if you feel the same, you'll at least have made an informed decision.

You said: There is nothing wrong with the soldier's creed, except that this war was an unlawful aggression against a country that had nothing to do with 9/11 and who was contained by the sanctions against it.

S: Our actions, according to Congress, were lawful and well-funded, at least twice. Shall we require the resignation of all those elected representatives because of that? Recent news stories reveal the connections between 9/11, Al Qaeda and Saddam. Contained? After, what, 12 years of ignoring and rebelling UN resolutions?

L: Our young men and women who are dying in Iraq's killing fields are protecting neither America nor the Constitution of the United States. I beg you to look at the evidence of lies and deceit with a critical eye...THEN, if you feel the same, you'll at least have made an informed decision.

S: As many young men and women that are there, there are almost just as many older folks who have served three, four, even five tours in the danger zone. The picture being painted by the general media that it's just "young people" being killed is inaccurate and unfair in its intent to incite raw emotion that way.

SRL
Proud Army Mom Of Cpl. Brian USAREC
"One Nation Under God" & "God Bless America"
Praying for our soldier/heroes 24/7/365

I too have a young son in the service. I agree that we have to protect our country. But I don't believe we are protecting this country at this time. This war is not a real war. This war is profit for Mr. Bush and his company's. I support our troops in every way. I don't support this no winning war. I stand by Cindy all the way. I wish I could be with you Cindy. I feel the pain. My heart goes out to you. Your the best mother. It's your husband's loss not to stand by you. A mother's love can never be replaced.

SRL,
I'm sorry that your son feels that he needs to return to Iraq. I hope and pray that he will return alive. I just have a few points for you:

1) the world was told that weapons of mass destruction capable of striking the US were in Iraq; that's why the kids were sent there; not to bring freedom to others. You cannot force freedom upon others, that is why Iraq is devastated and on the brink of civil war. That is why the women of Iraq suffer fewer personal freedoms now than they did under Saddam. That is why tens of thousands of innocent Iraqi men, women and children are now dead. Your President went to war, maliciously and deliberately, for OIL! That's it.

2) because you were all lied to about the "mission" it becomes no longer a mission, but a set-up and thus everyone killed becomes killed not "in the line of duty", but murdered.

3) the Army Soldiers Creed is a noble creed, but the murderous George Bush and his cabal of thugs have pulled the wool over the eyes of the best intentioned patriots. Iraq is not your enemy. Saddam complied with all your demands for access. He never threatened your freedom or your way of life. But Bush has. Look how he has your entire country running scared. Neighbours spying on neighbours; humiliating body searches in airports; people afraid of untended packages; cameras everywhere; a police state that permits access to people's bank accounts, work records, library accounts.

He has lied and deliberately put in jeopardy thousands and thousands of young American lives. He has sentenced many thousands to live the rest of their lives with unwhole bodies and minds. He has torn apart families and friends. He has intentionally destroyed an entire country and murdered and injured over 100,000 innocent people. He has taken the compassion and sympathy of the entire world (including Iraq) and in 4 short years he has turned the once respected, loved and admired United States into a country scorned and disgusted by the rest of the world.

You know the saying about how terrorists have won if you change the way you live. Well, they have won. And the biggest terrorist of them all is George W. Bush.

I don't understand why you have such a problem admitting that you were lied to and used to further the Neo-Con agenda.

Amen!!!! My highest regards to your factual mind!!!

Dear Cherry,

One, if you are a citizen of Canada, I believe you have your own perception of the US gov't and its workings which is filtered thru a Canadian-type lens of thinking. That, for me, disqualifies you from truly comprehending from where I, a US citizen, am coming.

Two, as to the Army Creed which you call noble...for one to TRULY "support the troops", one MUST realize he/she is in compliance with the creed for which our soldiers VOLUNTARILY sign.

Three, after this message, I will no longer reply to anyone who insists on defaming the US President, and those who believe as he does, in such base and vulgar terms. I recently heard enough Democrats calling Republicans and conservatives "thugs" and "goose-steppers" and our American soldiers "Nazis" and "baby killers"to last a lifetime. My husband was in Vietnam in '68 so we've had more than our fill of such anti-American talk.

I'd like to know your resources for all the statistics you've printed here...

SRL
Proud Army Mom Of Cpl. Brian USAREC
"One Nation Under God" & "God Bless America"
Praying for our soldier/heroes 24/7/05

Hello SRL;
Were you in invested in the stock market when the yields curves inverted on 2/28/2000? You know what happened next to the market.
The saddest part of this all is how individuals don't understand that this war is all about money (US WORLD RESERVE CURRENCY WAR). Your son signed up to serve but not to be used as a pawn to protect the world reserve currency....the us dollar!

the US Dollar WAS the world reserve currency till 11/2000
11/2000 SADDAM announced that all oil sales would be in EUROS not DOLLARS out of Iraq.

Many other countries in the EU take notice.....start to dump the dollar as well and buy EUROS (NOTE....all of EU countries COMBINED use more OIL than USA)
Note France and Germany were against IRAQ War.

Dollar starts to fall...warnings on US TRADE DEFICIT widens by many analysts including PAST Federal Chairmens.

Current FED Alan Greenspan...stops sale of 30 year bond.

Current FED Alan Greenspan...calls in 30 year bonds issued years ago at higher interest rates (above 8%). (never done before in our history) (trying again to get the dollars owed down)

After the US invasion oil was switched back to dollars BY OUR OWN GOVERNMENT last year BEFORE the first barel is shipped.

US nulls and VOIDS all prior IRAQ OIL contracts with all other countries....ie China. Exceptions are only the countries that invaded heavy with us into IRAQ.

2005 China currency not pegged to the dollar anymore.
2004 OPEC countries start very "quieting" dumping the dollar for EUROS.

2005 IRAN announces a NEW STOCK EXCHANGE for OIL to open in 2006 feb. (note the country that ships the second largest amount of oil.)

This new stock exchange will be controlled NOT BY US DOLLARS.

More international countries start dumping MORE us DOLLARS held in their reserves for trade (google up IMF).

Notice the price of gasoline UP and the per barel cost keeps going UP as the dollar falls DOWN. INflation is starting everywhere including your food bill.

NO US refineries built since the early 70's in USA.
Iraq announces "we welcome foreign companies to build and start REFINERIES investments here in IRAQ". Now look at the USA Companies starting contracts for refineries with IRAQ. USA needs some of those.
US is loosing a CURRENCY WAR internationaly as the WORLD RESERVE CURRENCY.

FED chairman just announces re-issue of the 30 year bond in MARCH 2006....I wonder why?

If you OCCUPY a foreign country you are still the COUNTRY with all the controls no matter what you hand over. Read the laws.

By a massive dumping of the US DOLLAR, USA is at risk of dollar colapse and DEFAULTS on our DEBT!
With more and more countries now buying EUROS (as their countries reserve currency) to purchase OIL what do you think happens to the USA and the US DOLLAR?
This why you will find the USA in IRAN NEXT
How ...... AIR FORCE POWER.
SEARCH "CURRENCY WAR DOLLARS TO EUROS"
SEARCH "ENGERY BULLENTINS on IRAQ AND IRAN"
SEARCH "IRAN NEW OIL EXCHANGE"

Dear Anonymous,

Thank you for the lesson in economics. Thank goodness there are people out there like you to keep tabs on such issues.

So, what's your solution to this whole "mess"?

SRL
Proud Army Mom Of Cpl. Brian USAREC
"One Nation Under God" & " God Bless America"
Praying for our soldier/heroes 24/7/365

http://www.energybulletin.net/7707.html

I don't KNOW if there is a OIL PEAK occuring (I'm NOT an expect in geology oil field studies) ...but I do know that currency traders around the world have known the IRAQ WAR was started over the US DOLLAR LOOSING MASSIVE GROUND AS THE WORLD RESERVE CURRENCY. The US DOLLAR is at risk (below a certain level) to DEFAULT.
What I do KNOW is that the currency WAR IS IRAN NEXT.

My postman, who son is in the military 9+ years within frontline infantry. He has served 3 tours in IRAQ. What is going on there know is the following:

INSURGENTS are using the regular IRAQ people including women and children as pawns in their Iraq homes. Hold children hostage in their home while they send the Iraq mother out in a car to lure US soldiers by planted bombs on the roadside. Then the bombs go off. You can fill in the rest. Another example I was given is an IRAQ army interpeter was embedded with a US MILITARY squad. This interpeter funneled information back to insurgents daily (RATS IN THE RANKS)...The US MIlitary found this out 5 months after when a Captain was blown up. These to me are impossible situations to work around. It is to the point you don't know who to trust in Iraq. I don't know what the answers are to end this mess. The more I hear from soldiers on the frontlines (daily fighters) within our community that return home I really question anybody being there whether it is IRAQ or AFGHANISTAN. The generals are afraid of speaking up to Rummy (he has already demoted a exchange full) having their stars ripped from them. Why do you think Tommy Franks ran so fast? And like any corporation those at the bottom rank suffer for the decisions at the top. Remember one thing WASHINGTON is motivated by $$$$$ and power of US the ECONOMY. As they are married hand in hand.

Something else I caught on a foreign news wire which hasn't been reported in USA is that IRAN is enjoying the HIGHEST OIL PROFITS in 98 years! How much have you heard in the media last 12 months about BUSH going after IRAN.

What little I understand about the economy, be it national or international, I do know about the money aspect of any country's well-being. And, from where I stand, the whole world has entangled itself w/multiple levels of commerce w/every country involved. That the war would involve the bottom-line is no surprise.

I also know American capitalism is one of the traits that has been used against us. And, yet, who are the folks who like to come to our country in order to have just the opportunity to live the way we do? Even the 9/11 hijackers were known to take part in living it up, American style while, at the same time, posing as the soberest of Muslim adherents. We're damned if we do and damned if we don't...

SRL
Proud Army Mom Of Cpl. Brian USAREC
"One Nation Under God" & "God Bless America"
Praying for our soldier/heroes 24/7/365

This guy has some talent, eh? I think I've read his poetry somewhere else, maybe, a long time ago. Thanks, Bren.

Yes, war tears families apart... War hurts. War costs. War is not peace. War is only noble when it is to defend your own country, community and family. Cindy Sheehan qualifies.

Cindy,
No need to defend yourself.
No need to enter into that trap.

Cindy,
You will be happy to know that you, like myself, are not obsessed but single minded. I learned that about my crazy family. We have drive beyond what is reasonable. That single minded nature accomplishes a lot. I think it probably created the constitution, discovered vaccines, invented the airplane. You get the idea. Does it get in the way of family life? Yeah. Can you change it? No. But Cindy, when all is said and done, your husband and your children will look at what you have accomplished and they will be proud. I know they will. You will have changed the course of history. Believe me that is not easy. This coming from another single minded person. Good luck and remember I'm behind you.

just shit out another kid, Cindy!

You are sick and very representative of the Bush constituency. Thank you for showing what Bush REALLY represents (and it ain't from Jesus).

If your mother knew you stooped this low to write a post like the one you wrote she would be ashamed to the core of her being. Sometimes it is best to keep your mouth shut and your keys off the keyboard. I suggest you do that until you've matured.

JUST SHIT OUT ANOTHER KID TO TAKE CASEY'S PLACE!

for they know not what they do." -- Jesus

Go spew that somewhere else please. There are religious sites all over the internet. GO THERE....

grow up

Only a Bush supporter could come out with such filth.

I notice you do not put your name to your post. I guess that makes you a coward as well as a low life.

One day you will see your shame... I would feel sorry for you but you disgust me too much.

Courage Cindy.

I have a solution. Shut off your computer. You obviously are not mature enough to use it.

I have a solution for you. Turn the computer off until you mature. If you are not capable then have someone turn it off for you, someone like your mother.

Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness' sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 5:10

Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake. Matthew 5:11

For when two or more are gathered together in my name, I am there in the midst of them. Matthew 18:20

No retreat, no surrender. This means you, Cindy, not W. May he sometime know the lies and deceptions that he stands for. May he sometime know that this country is people, like you and me, not business and corporations and greed.

Peace, strength and courage be to you.

Another Mom

"First they ignore you, then they mock you, then they fight you, then you win." --Mohandas K. Gandhi

They won't, though. They never saw a bedroom into which they wouldn't intrude.

These people have no shame.

via
www.ChurchoftheFrontPorch.blogspot.com

Cindy Sheehan is a devoted member of the Catholic faith. Her son Casey was also a devoted member of your church and served as an altar boy. Casey was killed in Iraq on Palm Sunday in 2004.
Paul John Paul and Mother Teresa had spoken out against the invasion of Iraq.
Cindy is on a pilgrimmage for peace. We are witnessing a testament of her devout Christian faith.
I pray that you will support her, and help her.
May God have mercy on all of us.

Pope John Paul

Dear Cindy, I too have an imperfect family, but it saved my son's life. You see my son has a permanent disability. I will not go into detail because it is rare and hard to explain. But he is now your son's age last year when Casey was killed. This is why I am so proud of you. The military did not want my child , back in 1999 when he was thinking about joining. I talked to the recruiters personally and described my son. They said there was no point in him coming in to their office. I am forever grateful to God for his disability now. The stress did break up my marriage, so I totally relate to you, except for the fact that we have our son. I do not know how I would handle that, and I am so very sorry that you do have to deal with it. But you handle it so well, that I know Casey will not have died in vain, that the truth will set us all free. He has you for a Mom, and he is in Heaven loving you and your family forever with God . Bad things happen to good people, and my prayers are with you and your family during these trying times.
Sincerely,
yank had enuf

Don't try to foist some emotional fantasy in the form of a creed off as solemn bond between a nation and it's warriors. Doesn't the fact that it's copyrighted offer you any indication of it's solemnity?
As a veteran, and as the father of a child currently serving in arms, I resent the fact that you attempt to diminish Casey Sheehan's sacrifice to our nation.
Cindy Sheenan does not take from the sacrifices of the brave men and women who have answered their countries call.What she is doing is trying to redeem the sacrifice of her son. She is a mother who understands that her son was betrayed by the President, the Congress and by our nation. If she can get America to look at its self and acknowledge its wrong in the invasion of Iraq, then her son's sacrifice will not have been in vain...And America will truly have been defended.

You know, you vets need to start sending letters to NYTimes and Washington Post. You have the right to have your voices heard. You've had the experience. You understand the duty to military better than anyone. And you understand how the soldiers been betrayed.

You said: Don't try to foist some emotional fantasy in the form of a creed off as solemn bond between a nation and it's warriors. Doesn't the fact that it's copyrighted offer you any indication of it's solemnity?

S: Because of legalities, one must give credit to copyrighted materials, even on-line, for one thing. For another, I have no problem w/copyrights for such things as creeds.

Anon: As a veteran, and as the father of a child currently serving in arms, "I resent the fact that you attempt to diminish Casey Sheehan's sacrifice to our nation.

S: As the granddaughter of a WWI veteran, the daughter and daughter-in-law of two WWII veterans, as the wife of a Vietnam veteran and as the mother of an Iraqi war veteran (over there at the tender age of 18, now 21), I am puzzled by your statement. What has your status as a veteran and a father of a currently serving soldier have to do w/your resentment? And, you give no lead-in as to how that affects your opiniion of Ms. Sheehan. And, what part of my statement(s) "diminishes" her sacrifice. I have every due respect for her as a grieving mother and cannot imagine the horror of being in her position.

Anon: Cindy Sheenan does not take from the sacrifices of the brave men and women who have answered their countries call.

S: Does that mean she "supports the troops" even tho' they're in the same position her son was in? How can she "support" some of the troops as if they're in an ok position in the war while, at the same time, blast the Pres., Congress, etc., for her son being in the very same position before his tragic, tragic death?

Anon: What she is doing is trying to redeem the sacrifice of her son. She is a mother who understands that her son was betrayed by the President, the Congress and by our nation. If she can get America to look at its self and acknowledge its wrong in the invasion of Iraq, then her son's sacrifice will not have been in vain...And America will truly have been defended.

S: Again, with all due respect and deep regard for the intensely emotional sentiments being voiced here and in Texas, am I to understand you and others in your position to believe that a soldier's sacrifice is "on the altar of war", done by President Bush, et el, and not the personal sacrifice GIVEN by any American soldier who dies believing he or she is doing the right thing for his or her country? Didn't you, when you became a soldier, knowingly agree to the rules of the branch you served in and realize that the possibility you might die was inherent in that contract for your voluntary service?

If your answer is the first, then, that's her/your choice. You have the right to your opinions and heartfelt desires. If, on the other hand, it's the second, one cannot "redeem" a life that was given to a cause. In the giving, there is no expectation of return. I am so grateful to Ms. Sheehan and all parents who have had a child killed in war. Grateful to her for HER sacrifice, for HER strength, for HER ability to have had a son who thought it right to defend my right as an American citizen while promoting (not forcing) freedoms in a country, any country, that wishes to become democratic, peaceful and truly free from dictators, murdererous rulers or anyone who devalues a person's worth.

One can honor the life that was given by living to one's best ability, by helping others, by helping others remember the person and always, always remember that we live in an imperfect world and war is a hideously ugly part of it.

SRL
Proud Army Mom Of Cpl. Brian USAREC
"One Nation Under God" & "God Bless America"
Praying for our soldier/heroes 24/7/365

But, Casey wasn't murdered by George Bush's policies. He was murdered by a terrorist. And, although the Army sent Casey to Iraq, if I recall something you said, he re-enlisted in the Army in order to go to the war in Iraq. I believe it is unfortunate that you have had to bury your son, but don't blame the president. Blame the terrorists who got us involved in the middle east, and who actually killed im, in the first place. And, also remember George Bush is affected more by Jesus than many of the presidents of your lifetime and mine ever were. If you knew anything about him, George Bush that is, you would recognize the fact that he believes that Jesus has had the largest political influence on him more than anyone else. And, no one is without sin. So, what justifies you to throw the first stone? You were the one that criticized the president, and you threw the first stone. What justifies that?

You mean the ones who remain at large while your Jesus-loving, born again president drops cluster bombs, napalm and "depleted" uranium on innocent people, including children, in Iraq -- people whom even he admits had nothing to do with 9/11.

If that's what your religion advocates and condones, another reformation is long past due.

You said, "Blame the terrorists who got us involved in the middle east". If only that were true, you would have a point. But it isn't, and you haven't.

The US army is in Iraq for exactly one reason: Because the Bush administration wants them to be there. This is not a war of defence. This is not a war to fight an enemy. It is a war of choice and oppression. It is an invasion designed to control what the State Department calls a "stupendous source of strategic power" and "one of the greatest prizes in world history.", the mideast oil.

There are a couple of other tangential reasons for the invasion, for example support for Israel, although that may backfire. The point here is that not terrorists drove the US into the middle east. It is the US presence in the middle east that raises terrorism. And the reason for the US presence is domination.

Given this enormous moral conflict, it is not surprising that you try to rationalize it away. The lies of the Bush administration serve a single purpose: To give the US public a reason to put the head into the sand, and support an illegal and immoral atrocity. But the world never bought into it, and the US public is waking up, too.

M.

The big problem I see about the president allowing his religious beliefs effect his policy is that this country is so religiously diverse. There is a multitude of religions who have found a place in our culture. JFK was a devout catholic, but he never allowed his religious beliefs to decide his policies. Don't get me wrong, I think following a religion is a good thing.

George Bush uses religion to get votes, to go to war, to run away, to get away with murder. Jesus was a peace maker. The little I know about religion, I can bet Jesus would not have gone to war with Iraq. I think he would find the idea of it reprehensible.

You said: George Bush uses religion to get votes, to go to war, to run away, to get away with murder. Jesus was a peace maker. The little I know about religion, I can bet Jesus would not have gone to war with Iraq. I think he would find the idea of it reprehensible.

S: True, one of the names for Jesus is "Prince of Peace" for those who believe and obey his commands. Jesus also brought a sword, God's Word, to this earth to divide husband from wife, father from son, kin from kin in order to fulfill prophecy. He came do divide those who believe in him from those who don't. His mission was to "seek and save the lost" in order that they might be reconciled to God the Father. Jesus acknowledged the soldiers of his day, the first century, but did not tell them to quit being soldiers. They were to follow their consciences, yes, but there is no command against war...especially war against the devil. The devil is anyone or anything who is against-Christ or "anti-Christ".

SRL
Proud Army Mom Of Cpl. Brian USAREC
"One Nation Under God" & "God Bless America"
Praying for our soldier/heroes 24/7/365

The Project of the New American Century violates everything every TRUE Christian believes in. Jesus would not be involved with such evil men and evil women of the PNAC. They plotted killing innocent people before 9/11 even. Jesus would NOT do pre-meditated murder. God said "Thou shalt NOT kill".

Bush does not have allegiance to any religion, including Jesus. His allegiance is to the Project for the New American Century and the PNAC so-called "statement of principles". The whole plot involves oil and global domination. These Neocons are drunk with power and a lust for oil and business in the MidEast. Bush, Cheney, and PNAC Neocon cabal have obviously stopped following the Constitution of the United States of America. He falsely accused the Iraqui people of WMD and 9/11, then he threw MANY stones by bombing the innocents with Shock & Awe. He scared the Iraqui people to death so that they became resistant and turned into insurgency to keep Bush's evil out of their land. Bush murdered 100, 000 Iraquis and over 2000 American soldiers, and also murdered UK troops and other coalition troops. But he let Osama go free, and he does not even look for him. This is very strange , evil behavior for a Christian, it is more like Satanism. Bush , Cheney, and PNAC fooled millions of people, Democrats, Republicans, Independant, ALL Americans. I suspect he fooled Colin Powell too, and I think that is why he resigned. These evil men and women have plotted this for years , even before Bush got into office. They used the Christian right and the pro-lifers and scammed everyone into thinking that he is a Christian. Actually , his allegiance is to the Neocons and the PNAC, not USA and not Jesus. Please please please
wake up and smell the coffee:

This is PNAC's actual website. Cheney co-founded PNAC in 1997:
http://www.newamericancentury.org/statementofprinciples.htm

This website explains the evil PNAC
http://www.oldamericancentury.org/

Cindy,

You just said that "When they start sliming my home life and my family, that's where I draw the line. Yes, my husband has filed for divorce and yes he filed before I left for the VFP Convention and this trip to Crawford and yes IT IS BETWEEN MY HUSBAND AND I"

According the your divorce petition he filed August 12, 2005. I have no idea when or where the VFP convention was but he filed well after you got to Crawford.

Not that I care when or if you get divorced. I am getting tired of your frequent diversions from the truth though.

Your all a bunch of noobs

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