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Cindy Sheehan Response to President Bush


"All we're asking is that he sacrifice an hour out of his five-week vacation to talk to us."

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Crawford, Texas – "The President says he feels compassion for me, but the best way to show that compassion is by meeting with me and the other mothers and families who are here. Our sons made the ultimate sacrifice and we want answers. All we're asking is that he sacrifice an hour out of his five-week vacation to talk to us, before the next mother loses her son in Iraq. He says he is spreading peace. How can you spread peace by killing people?"

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You need to be stopped! You are completely out of control. I am a wife of a US Army officer and you are shaming him and all those that serve in the US military. Your protest has cause my husband to call his own mother and BEG her to not do what you are in Texas doing. Your son voluntarily joined a VOLUNTEER military. Please don't discredit him and his sacrifice for his country. Shame on you Cindy.

Your comments would be credible if you spoke from a position of informed knowledge. My request of you would be to inform yourself on the facts on the issues involved in this invasion. Relying on a limited source of information leads to limited understanding.

Donnah:
Cindy is not out of control. You and your gutless right-winged President is out of control. God be with your husband, toots, 'cause he's going to need someone with brains (you don't have any) to be with him.

but he is NOT a volunteer when he has been subjected to a war of lust for imperialism with Bushco lies . Bushco and PNAC have committed heinous crimes to humanity and the military with their draconian deceptions.

You need your husband home with you, and frankly we do to ... we are running out of a National Guard militia !

Bush Administration should be STOPPED and will be with impeachment and war crimes trials. Never again will this happen in America, NEVER AGAIN !!!

Donnah-- Noone has any intent whatsoever to shame your husband or any troops. On the contrary we have the utmost sympathy for them at having been duped into undertaking what amounts to an "exploratory venture" on behalf of leaders who could give a rats ass about your husband or anyone else that might be sacrificed in the process.

Try reading the reports that are available that show clearly there was no reason for going to war, which show Congress would never have voted for this war had they not been lied to about the facts and had information withheld from them. Want to really open your eyes, look up and read the "Downing Street Minutes" that show the facts were manipulated to provide a false pretext for war in Iraq, or the "Report on the U.S. Intelligence Community's Prewar Intelligence Assessments on Iraq". You truly will have your eyes opened.

We are all behind our troops to DEFEND our country and that is what troops "volunteer" for. I would go back in myself to "defend it". This action in Iraq is about "regime change", a totally aggressive action that our troops should not be asked to die for to satisfy political whims. Saddam was a bad guy to his own people, no doubt, but if you get informed you'll see he was no threat to us. Are we going to go around the world self righteously taking out dictators and getting our troops killed for that reason? If so we should be in Venezuala right now, but we didn't go there because there's more oil in Iraq.

The real threat is Al Quaida after 9/11, and if we had put as much men and material into Afighanistan chasing them and Bin Laden, we'd have him by now, and the world could breathe easier. Incompetent leaders took us instead to Iraq, which is like us bombing Mexico after Pearl Harbor. You and your husband have our sympathy for being unfairly taken advantage of by politicians to carry out their whims.

Dear Donnah,

you and your brave husband are in my prayers. Thank you for speaking out loudly what so many think, facing the stupid and egocentric behavior of this one Mrs. Cindy Sheehan. Whoever stands up for liberty, democracy and freedom knows what the soldiers are doing in Iraq. The silliness of Mrs. Sheehan has embarassed her whole family, decent and quiet people, struggling with their pain over the terrible loss they suffered, and who now beg her publicly to stop this narcistic campaign. Donnah, may your husband return home safely. God bless you and yours, Mal

P.S. I am German, and I feel ashamed that my country does not support the allies in Iraq actively. But the hearts of many Germans are with the brave men who are helping to build a democratic society in Iraq. Something that the peacenik left and such willfull supporters of djihadism as Mrs. Cindy Sheehan fear so very much. The simple facts about Islamistic terror and its roots in Iraq and Iran will hopefully force my government soon to change its policy.

heck, we all know the Hitler history.

But did you know that our country is being run and operated by the PNAC "Project for the New American Century", a Pax Americana fascist style think tank co-founded by Dick Cheney in 1997? And that many appointees in the Bush Administration have been members of PNAC since the late '90's? And that Bush is PNAC's puppet? No, you didn't know that? Neither do most Americans.

Thank you, yank had enuf, for that lesson on history. Yes indeed, I do know about the Third Reich, especially about the ugly parts. And that is because American soldiers came to my country, overthrew its immoral and inhuman government after a long and bloody fight, installed democracy and freedom, which my people were not able to install themselves, and stayed for a long time to protect us and to help us developping ourselves. So excuse me if I have lots of sympathy for what is going on in Iraq.

And: yes, indeed, I do know the Project for the New America (PNAC), and everybody should spend a visit to their website www.newamericancentury.og. They are rational and consequent people with principles and an objective political point of view. I have read many of their texts, and I agree with lots of what they say.

Now, yank, comes the bitter part. Are you serious? You tell me that your country, the United States of America, is "being run and operated" by that group of people, the PNAC? Are you sure that it isn't run and operated by the Masons? Or, to come to the core, by the Jews? I mean, listen: Wolfowitz. Ain't that a Jewish name? And "Bush", like in Moses [sic!] and the burning bush? It's all proven, it's the Jews behind it all, and we must protect ourselves against their Pan-American radiation by wearing tin foil hats.

Thank you, yank, for allowing me to take a short glimpse into the world of the people, who support that Mrs. Cindy Sheehan. Best to all of you and victory to the forces of democracy and freedom! Yours truly, Mal

P.S. Be careful with that black helicopter that's hanging over your house! Watch out!

Thank you.

Donnah,
You are missing the point......our military (including your husband, Casey Sheehan, etc.) has been MISUSED by
the Bush administration. Are you OK with that?

Maybe your "volunteer" officer can testify as a character witness at bushs impeachment trial or when the world tries him for war crimes.

Too bad you haven't learned that we do support our troops and all mothers of the troops. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. If my son called me and told me to never, ever do what Cindy is doing, I'd want to know what happened to my rights.

I'm a Cindy. I'm not a sheeple. I read, I analyze and frankly after reading the Downing Street Memoes I don't know why every American isn't saying, "let's investigate this."

If the memoes prove to be true then bush needs to be removed from office and behind bars. If they are all hogwash then we owe him an apology. The republicans in congress won't call for an investigation because they know the memoes are true and would be more than a black eye on their beloved pary.

Donnah, you are blind. Turn off FOX news for once.

Thank you so much for your concern, but I don't watch FoxNews.

Hey, is that the same "volunteer" army that offered $30,000.00 signing bonus if these guys re-upped while still in Iraq, and promised to extend their Iraq tours indefinitely if they didn't?
Cindy speaks for those who no longer have a voice. Thank God someone finally has the guts to say THIS WAR IS WRONG! WE WERE LIED TO!

You actually believe that? Um...yes, you were lied to! My husband nearly fell out of his seat when he read your comments. They didn't extend anyones tours because they wouldn't re-up. Get YOUR facts straight.

Dear Donnah,

I understand that you and your husband disagree with Cindy. Thanks very much to your husband and everyone in Iraq right now! I want you to know that I do support our troops. But I absolutely do not support this war or our President.

Cindy is expressing her God given and Constitutional rights by expressing her feelings. She is simply asking for the President to talk with her. Yes, she has already spoken to him once, so what?

Is President Bush a king now, that we don't dare question? I seem to remember that our country was founded on the right to disagree with our leaders and to question them. She is doing this.

We are now seeing the true feelings of the American people beginning to be expressed.

-Craig

Donnah thinks you should be a good, passive little sheep, Cindy. Go back home and cry in your cookie dough. Let the big, important President continue to disgrace our country with his mendacity and his vicious and inhumane policies toward Iraq and anyone else he chooses to destroy for peace. He's the President, would he do something wrong? Of course not. Donnah understands that the fact that your son was a volunteer means Bush/Cheney had the right to do anything they wanted to him, including getting him killed for no reason whatsoever. In fact if president Bush wanted to eat a soldier for breakfast every day that would be his right. After all, they're VOLUNTEERS! Good, clear thinkin' Donnah.

GET A CLUE !!!!!!

In all simple honesty, I don't know why President Bush can't meet with Cindy face to face. It escapes me. It makes him appear to be cowardice. What is the problem, Mr. Bush???!!

Donnah,

No one, especially Cindy, is shaming your husband. An army should be used to defend its country when under attack. I don’t recall Iraq ever attacking us nor ever declaring war against us. Wars can be just or they can be criminal. This war is CRIMINAL and those that started it need to be tried for crimes against humanity. The soldiers fearing and fighting for their lives must do so whether the war is just or criminal. We as citizens NEED to do all we can to stop this horrendous crime. WE need to end it immediately and bring home our honorable, courageous soldiers.

It is best to fight no war, it is a terrible burden to fight a just war – it is INSANE to fight an unnecessary war. Cindy is courageously helping our country get its soul back. WE all need to support her! THIS IS A GOOD CAUSE – please join it!

I'm a veteran of the Korean War and I tell you my friends, that if I knew I was going to Korea under false pretense, a lie, as the Men and Women of today are doing in Iraq, I would certainly stand up and protest against our coward of a President. A Presidnet who didn't fulfill his own military obligations as he says he did, (nobody in the Alalbama Air National Guard remembers him). There is so much proof out today that George W Bush and Dick Cheney fixed intelegence to invade Iraq I can't understand for the sake of me why Congress won't set aside partisen politics and impeach the two of them. I emailed my congressman, a republican, and suggested that he commit himself to Representative Lee and her inquiries into the Downing Street Memo's. Cindy Sheehan has started the ball rolling, lets not let her down.....contact your reps and demand an investagation, a private counsel. Lets stand up to these ruthless people.

This war is a sham. It was illegally forced upon the country of Iraq and the people of the United States and as time goes on more and more evidence surfaces proving the statement true. Today in Raw Story there was an investigative report on Senator Roberts of Kansas. He suppressed evidence suggesting there was no weapons of mass distruction. He called Senator Rockefeller unpatriotic for questioning the evidence. Each day that goes by I am more and more horrified by the new evidence. We were led into an unnecessary war. When Bush said Kerry had the same evidence he had, he was lying. The President of our country was lying. And tragedies mount.
Donnah, what you are going through with your husband right now is a tragedy. What Cindy Sheehan and all the other gold star families are going through is a tragedy.
Raw Story
http://rawstory.com/news/2005/HowSenate_Intelligence_chairman_fixed_inte...

Why do you all keep saying what my husband and I are going through right now is a tragedy? Do you know me? Do you know us? My husband as well as many of the guys in his unit are looking forward to going back to Iraq. He has guys in his unit putting their hands up and asking to go back over there. He has guys in his unit that went to Iraq and after their first year volunteered to stay for another one. And don't give me that crap that they did it for the bonuses....the men I am talking about as well as my husband are officers and don't recieve ANY bonuses for staying in the military. My husband has been in the Army a little over 4 years now. This past May he has served his "obligated" time to the military and had the opportunity to get out. Did he? NO!

The fact remains, whether you choose to see it or not, that this war is a TRAGEDY. If you could look at it from a perspective beyond your own personal opinion, you would see it as a tragedy for ALL people.

New evidence proves that this war was illegal. Raw Story has alleges that Senator Roberts withheld evidence from the senate. When Bush claimed that Kerry had all the evidence he had, he was lying. When Senator Rockefeller had the nerve the question the evidence, Roberts questioned his patriotism.
Donnah, the stories are tragic. You're story is tragic. You and your husband do not deserve the stress. Cindy Sheehan does not deserve the empty hole in her life. Iraq does not deserve the hell that has come to their country.

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/HowSenate_Intelligence_chairman_fixed_inte...

hell that came to their country , one question have you been there, probably not, and what gets my goat is half you tree hugging unpatriot, so called americans, have never even served in the military and if you did im sure some were probably kicked out. sadam had his own sons, closest friends and soldiers rape innocent women and children, kill people, hell he even gassed his own people in mosul and down in basra, you people beleive everything you see or hear on tv or what ever sounds like something to take up against the military, WOW AMAZES ME ON HOW FAST WE FORGET WHAT HAPPENED ON 9/11, AND THOSE PEOPLE ARE NOW IN IRAQ SO YOU WANT US TO PULL OUT, FINE LETS PULL OUT AND TELL EVERYONE THAT LOSED SOMEONE OH WELL YOU LOST YOUR LOVE ONES FOR NOTHING, AND THEN JUST SIT BACK AND WAIT FOR THEM TO ATTACK US AGAIN, BECUASE THEY WILL ATTACK AGAIN. THEY WILL SEE US PULL OUT AND CALL IT A WIN AND WHICH WILL ENCOURAGE MORE OF THEM TO JOIN THEIR SIDE AND ATTACK US WITH MORE POWER. I GUESS LOVE AND PEACE WILL JUST MAKE THEM PUT DOWN THEIR ARMS AND JUST SAY WE GIVE UP, YEAH RIGHT , WAKE UP PEOPLE, THESE PEOPLE ARE RADICAL ISLAMIC PATRONS WHO HATE YOU AND WILL KILL YOU AND YOUR FAMILY AND LAUGH ABOUT IT. THAT IS THE ENEMY, THAT IS WHAT THEY WANT, AND THAT IS WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF WE LET YOU PEACE LOVERS TAKE OVER, YOU MAY NOT LIKE US OR WAR BUT DAMIT WHEN IT COMES TO FIGHTING WE ARE THE ONES DOING IT WHILE YOU ARE BACK HERE SPITTING ON US . IM TIRED OF IT. YOU MAKE ME SICK. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT BEFORE I WILL LET ONE OF THEM COME OVER HERE AND KILL YOU , I WILL STAND UP AND FIGHT THEM AND DIE JUST SO YOU CAN HAVE THE RIGHT TO SPIT ON MY GRAVE, GOD BLESS THE USA

True words, troop!

Hang on, and keep up telling other people what these Cindy Sheehan supporters are and what they stand against.

God bless the USA!

No, we don't like war, especially an illegal and unnecessary war. In case you weren't aware, even Bush admitted after repeating over and over that Saddam had ties to Bin Laden and 9/11, that there was absolutely not one micron of evidence proving that to be true. Bush also stated that Saddam had biological weapons and that he was trying to make a deal to get yellowcake from Niger to make nuclear weapons, Bush stated that he didn't want his proof to be a mushroom cloud over the USA. Later, he made fun of the WMD claim at a Washington function, pretending to look under tables and behind curtains, his selected audience laughed and laughed, while our soldiers were dying.

Saddam was cleared of the charge of gassing his own people, by guess who, a Pentagon investigation team more than ten years ago. They said that Iran was in tactical control of the area where the Kurds were gassed. What was not in the report, was that the U.S. supplied the biological weapons to both Iran and Iraq. Of course, you know that the Niger Yellowcake evidence was a forgery, and that Bush had been informed of this by both the British and Joe Wilson, before he ever made the mushroom cloud statement.

Maybe the people responible for 9/ll are in Iraq now, but before we started this war of aggression, Iraq had not been tied to one terrorist incident any where in the world.

You say that Saddam allowed women and children to be raped and killed, I can't argue that fact because I haven't researched it. But surely you are aware of the torture photos from Abu Ghraib, as well as reports of the same types of incidents in Afghanistan and at Gitmo. Such as men being sodomized with light sticks and broom handles, and boys as young as 14 being sodomized within screaming distance of their families who are also locked up. Is this more acceptable to you that our military is doing these things than Saddam? And you do know that Bush threatened to veto the new defense bill because it included language that would allow Congressional investigation into the torture claims at our various foreign prison as well as our secret ones. Have you ever witnessed the anguish that soldiers go through when they return to civilian life after participating in these acts?

Then there's the final Bush claim of spreading democracy. What kind of democracy has curfews and checkpoints? What kind of freedom is living with 2 or 4 or 6 hours of electricity a day? What kind of life is living in an oil rich land but sitting in line for hours for a few gallons of gas which is promptly siphoned out to run the community generator because you have no electricity? What appreciation do you expect from people that have days with no water, and sewerage running in the streets? We haven't even gotten the oil production up to Saddam's with his broke down equipment. oh, and night door busting raids usually at the wrong house? The 50% unemployment, even though the Iraqis underbid Halliburton every time they never get the job. Then there was the 10 years of sanctions that killed over 1 million Iraqis mostly children and the elderly. Do they hate us, I would bet on it. Would I hate some invading nation that did those things to me and my family, without a doubt.

What you don't understand is that Cindy and all the others like her are not spitting on you, or on your time as a soldier. If there must be a war, let it be because we are going after the people that attacked us. Let it be for defending our nation, not because the President covets the the oil of a sovereign nation that has no air force or functioning Navy because they have been beaten down with 10 years of sanctions. At the very same time that Bush decided that Iraq must have regime change, North Korea made it very clear that they had nukes and would use them. Now, that's an out and out threat of aggression, but Bush decided that the nuke threat could be dealt with diplomatically, but that we must invade Iraq with her non-existent biological weapons with no delivery system. Cindy's son joined the military thinking he was going to defend his country, but the war in Iraq didn't have to happen, it was made to happen. Casey died for lies told by this President, who ordered his staff to find something, anything to attack Iraq. Now this same man whose own shaky military record has come up missing, refuses to speak to Cindy because she has made it very clear that she wants to know what is this "noble cause that Casey died for". Cindy does not want another family to experience the loss of their family member for a lie.

We may not have been to Iraq and experienced what you did, but you have not experienced what we have. In my case, I was sitting at the dining room table writing a letter, I looked out the window to see a dark government car followed by a police car pull up to the curb in front of my house. The officer on the passenger side was looking at my house number and I thought. "Wrong house, drive off." Then they both got out and I knew they were coming to kill my life. My kids had no father, and my son that had been an infant when he left would never know him. That 7 years of marriage with only 26 months actually spent together, never being there for any of the 9 moves, births, first tooth, first step, first word, first day of school. And now never being there again. Our children have problems about his death to this day. My daughter blames me, I knew he could get killed but I let him go. She is searching for a Daddy and is seductive towards men her father's age. My son is certain that his Dad didn't care about any of us, that he would rather go off some place and die than stay home and be his Dad. He has developed OCD or obsessive-compulsive disorder, with ritualistic handwashing and constant praying that nothing else bad happens. I would not wish a life like mine on my worst enemy.

I just about lose it when I hear phrases like, "defending our freedoms", "Freedom isn't free", "defending democracy", "if you're reading this in English, thank a soldier". What complete and total bullshit! Who has taken more of our freedoms than this administration? The government now has the right to know what books you read, what internet sites you visit, access to your medical records and pharmacy records, to access your credit report, to enter and search your property without a warrant, to incarcerate you without charges or access to an attorney for eternity, to mentally test your children and put them on psychotrophic drugs whether you like it or not, and to take them away from you if you don't comply, to stick you in free speech zones miles away from political appearances so no opposing thoughts are heard, and the right to remove you from so-called public forums if you are suspected of not being a good republican. Freedom isn't free, exactly which foreign nation has tried to take away one of your freedoms or to extort protection money from you to pay for your freedom? Why would we be out defending a democracy when the United States is a republic, not a democracy? And no, I will not thank a soldier because I'm reading and writing in English. This country was settled predominantly by British colonists and was an English speaking colony for years before there was ever a Republic of the United States of America.

There has not been a war in the last sixty years that had one thing to do with defending our nation. Did Korea launch an attack or threaten us in anyway, did Vietnam, did Bosnia, did Iraq at Desert Storm or Operation Iraqi Freedom? No. Now Bush who is already fighting an undermanned two front war in Afghanistan and Iraqi, is drawing up a plan for regime change in Iran. Why? Because he says they are getting the capacity to go nuclear. What did we do when Israel became nuclear, when China became nuclear, when India and Pakistan and Korea became nuclear? Nothing, and what happened for not taking any action, not one thing.

God, Americans love war, when we can't manage to get something started in some other country, we have a War on Drugs, War on Illiteracy, War on Polio, a War on Fireants. So yes, I must be one of those tree hugging, unpatriotic so-called Americans as you put it, call me what you want, but I've paid my dues and so have my children. I don't want to see one more drop of blood spilled for a pointless war that achieves nothing but enriching corporations like Halliburton, while it runs the United States into bankruptcy. I don't want our dead and wounded soldiers brought home in the dead of night, with no welcoming families (not allowed) or with no honor guard for our dead. If war is so noble, why is it that of the entire federal congressional and administrative branches of this nation, only one Representative has a child that is serving in the military, is that what you call patriotism? All lip service and no risk? Why is it that only the poor and middle class are expected to sacrifice their children on the altar of war? Bush said to the audience in one of his speeches last month, not to discourage your children from enlisting for this noble cause. He has two daughters that are in their early twenties, is he encouraging them to enlist?

Are you aware that the money spent on Operation Iraqi Freedom to date would feed all the starving people in the entire world for seven years? Talk about fighting terrorism, wouldn't that be better than interfering and telling people be like us and do as we say or else, but rather making it possible for them to live and saving their children? It's rare for a person to bite the hand that feeds them.

When you think there is a time for war and aggression, look at the Swiss and their policy of neutrality and non-interference and not one terrorist incident. How do you explain that?

God bless you and thank you for serving,

Sarah

I always find the posts like this so much more compelling and connected with the reality of living as a human being on this planet, rather than........
a "patriot" of a certain nationality, or a shill of a political party, or a proponent of some contrived ideology. Like you refer to....some people just love to be at war. It can be a war on ANYTHING!

I think if human civilization does not survive it will be because of IDEOLOGY.

I would hug a tree over a flag anyday.

You all are really amazing. These were the exact responses I was expecting. Did Casey have to re-enlist before going to Iraq...I don't think so. He re-enlisted knowing full well his unit was leaving for Iraq. His mother never wanted him to join the military but HE did, and now his mother is blaming everyone else for that. I don't get it.

You're correct, you don't get it.

Take a good look at the Downing Street Memos!

This country has taken a sad turn under this administration. It is up to us to continue the momentum that Cindy represents today. Talk to your neighbors, family, and representatives, and stress the importance of how this administration needs to be held accountable for the lies and destruction they have caused.

It is incredible that still millions of people believe anything this administration says, soley based on their party affiliation. It is just as incredible that our media has not done its job to report what is really happening.

We need to spread the truth with the demeanor that Cindy has show--sincere, heartfelt, and unbending.

May Casey rest in peace, knowing that his mother is doing the right thing.

Gustavo Lira

The point I think you are missing is that those in the
U.S. Military forces (aka, your husband, Casey Sheehan,
et al) have been MISUSED by a corrupt administration.
Are you OK with that?

Ask my husband the same question....he's not being "used". It's people like you that think that. It's comments like that, that bring down the morale of the troops...very wise!

Other than what she suggsted, Mrs. Sheehan was a vivid anti-Bush and anti-American activist well before her son went to Iraq. In “An Open Letter to President George Bush,

Donnah,

It is always WISE to strip away the facade and lies of power
when it USES people who are manipulated by the propaganda of that very same power. This IS VERY WISE.

Correction.....I said MISUSED. There is a world of difference
between used and misused as it concerns those who serve in the military.

To the person who wants to know why Cindy Sheehan has a right to speak to the president again...

FDR (Franklin Delano Roosevelt, to the uninformed) used to talk to us EVERY SINGLE FREAKIN' NIGHT on the radio. He did this to reassure us that our country was not going to hell and that WWII was a noble cause. If we wanted answers to tough questions, we got them.

I have never been in the military. I fortunately know nothing of combat. But I can tell you this: I happen to be very close to a WWII vet who flew in the South Pacific. There are very very few of his kind left today, and he has always been a very staunch conservative Republican and a good Protestant man. He tells me that he cannot in good conscience support this war. War is hell, he says, and if there is no justifiable cause - as there clearly has not been, and will probably never be - then war is worse than hell. Ask any Vietnam Vet who served.

So Mr. Bush, send your daughters over to Iraq. If its so noble a cause, then surely they should be forefronting it and setting a good example. Then maybe I'll believe...

So many thoughts. I am apalled at the lack of media on this war. It is silent. It is kept silent. Why doesn't Bush send his daughters to Iraq?

So many thoughts. I am apalled at the lack of media on this war. It is silent. It is kept silent. Why doesn't Bush send his daughters to Iraq?

If Bushs' daughters signed up they would go....once again this is a volunteer military. How many times do you have to be told this?

Can someone please tell me Cindy Sheehan keeps blaming Bush? Did her son not VOLUNTARILY RE-ENLIST a couple of months before he was sent to Iraq...knowing at the time his unit was slated to go to Iraq? If he was so against Bush and his policies and the war like Mrs. Sheehan says he was, why did he re-enlist?

he could not possibly have known that this war is based on lies and deception. Most citizens still don't. The boy was doing his best and what he felt was right. It still does not make tis a "just war". Enough with your silly defense of this criminal administration....if you are such a "patriot".

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