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Fox's On the Record with Greta Van Susteren and CNN's Daybreak Cover Cindy's Protest
FOX ON THE RECORD WITH GRETA VAN SUSTEREN 10:48 PM EST
Tuesday, August 9, 2005
VAN SUSTEREN: Tonight, the mother of a fallen soldier is protesting the war in Iraq right in the president's front yard. Cindy Sheehan's son Casey was killed in Iraq last year. Now Cindy has camped out at President Bush's Crawford, Texas ranch and says she won't leave until the president speaks with her.
Cindy Sheehan joins us live on the phone. Cindy, first of all, I'm terribly sorry about your son. There obviously aren't words to express to you.
CINDY SHEEHAN, PROTESTING SON'S DEATH IN IRAQ (by telephone): Thank you so much, Greta.
VAN SUSTEREN: Cindy, you're at Crawford. You want to talk to the president. How long have you been there?
SHEEHAN: I've been here since Saturday morning about Noon.
VAN SUSTEREN: What do you want to say to the president Cindy?
SHEEHAN: The president that last week when the 14 Marines were killed, the president was at a luncheon or something and he was speaking and he said that he wants the families to rest assured that their loved ones died for a noble cause.
And, I don't believe that -- I believe that Iraq is a war of aggression on a nation that posed no threat to the United States of America and innocent Iraqis are dying and American soldiers are dying for no reason and I don't feel that's a noble cause.
And, he also said that we need to finish the mission to honor the sacrifices of the fallen heroes and I have two problems with that one. Number one, the mission changes all the time, so as soon as one mission is accomplished, I mean he said the end of major combat on May 1, 2003 and it's like 1,600 dead Americans later, you know. So, the mission changes all the time and the mission is ill defined and there's like no goal or no exit strategy.
And, the second problem I have with that statement is I'm a mother. My heart was ripped out. My soul was ripped out on April 4, 2004 and why would I want another mother to suffer the same pain I'm suffering just because my son is dead? And, I want the president to honor my son's sacrifice and the sacrifice of all of the children (INAUDIBLE) for peace by bringing our children home.
VAN SUSTEREN: Do you realistically expect that the president will come out and talk to you?
SHEEHAN: You know there's always hope, you know. Nothing is impossible. If I were to lay odds I would say the odds are he's probably not going to meet with me but I'm not leaving until he meets with me or until the end of his vacation at the end of August and then I'll leave.
VAN SUSTEREN: Cindy, I guess I mean, you know, it's so hard to think of, you know, what kind of questions to ask the mother of a fallen soldier. Some mothers of fallen soldiers feel differently than you do. Do you -- I mean how do you reconcile that?
SHEEHAN: I believe that the mothers of the soldiers who feel differently than I do they need to feel the way that they need to feel because their sons came home the same way my son came home in a flag-draped coffin. So, if they need to believe what they need to believe to get through the day then I honor that.
VAN SUSTEREN: Cindy, thank you very much for joining us this evening, I appreciate it Cindy.
SHEEHAN: Well, thank you, anytime. I'll be out there for a month.
VAN SUSTEREN: All right, Cindy.
CNN DAYBREAK 5:00 AM EST
Tuesday, August 9, 2005
ELAINE QUIJANO, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice over): Her name is Cindy Sheehan, and she is one voice in the emotional debate over the Iraq War.
CINDY SHEEHAN, ARMY SPECIALIST CASEY SHEEHAN'S MOTHER: I'm a mom. My heart was broken on April 4 when my son was killed.
QUIJANO: Her son, 24-year-old Army Specialist Casey Sheehan, died in Baghdad's Sadr City last year. She blames President Bush for his death.
SHEEHAN: George Bush said that the families can be -- can rest assured that their children died for a noble cause. And I want to ask him, what is that noble cause?
GEORGE W. BUSH, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We're laying the foundation of peace for generations to come. We're defeating the terrorists in a place like Iraq so we don't have to face them here at home.
QUIJANO: Recent polls show the public's support for the president's Iraq policy is falling below 40 percent. And while the president says he's determined to finish the job...
BUSH: We will stay the course. We will complete the job in Iraq.
QUIJANO: ... Cindy Sheehan says she's determined to get answers from him.
SHEEHAN: Can I go see the president?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, ma'am. You're going to stop.
QUIJANO: Sheehan has met the president before when he stopped at Ft. Lewis, Washington, to deliver a speech about the Iraq War.
SHEEHAN: My son had only been dead two months. I was in a deep state of shock. Since we met with George Bush in June of 2004, the Downing Street Memos have come out, the Dulfer weapons of mass destruction, or lack of weapons of mass destruction, report came out.
QUIJANO: She vows to camp out near the president's Texas ranch for the rest of his vacation until she sees him.
(on camera): Two top White House officials, the national security adviser, and the deputy chief of staff did come out to talk to Sheehan on Saturday. But she isn't satisfied. SHEEHAN: They said they'll pass on the concerns to the president. And I said, "Fine, but I'm not leaving until I talk to him."
QUIJANO (voice over): The White House says many of the hundreds of families the president has met with know their loved ones died for a noble cause and that the best way to honor their sacrifice is to complete the mission.
SHEEHAN: The only way he can honor my son's sacrifice and my family's sacrifice is by bringing the troops home in honor of my son's sacrifice.
QUIJANO: Elaine Quijano, CNN, Crawford, Texas.