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Iraq War Costs May Top Vietnam's

The Capital Times
By Dave Zweifel

"Osama bin Laden doesn't have to win; he will just bleed us to death."

That was the prediction last week of Michael Scheuer, a former counterterrorism official at the CIA who was in charge of the pursuit of bin Laden before retiring last year.

Scheuer's remarks were made to a reporter for the San Francisco Chronicle who last week added up what the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have cost the American taxpayers so far.

The total now stands at $314 billion and if things continue, costs will amount to another $450 billion over the next 10 years. That would make what the Bush administration calls the "war on terror" the most expensive U.S. military effort in the last 60 years, according to the Chronicle's report.

In today's dollars, the Korean War cost about $430 billion while Vietnam cost the United States $600 billion. The cost of Iraq will probably hit $700 billion.

But that's only part of the story. Already the Department of Defense is making noises about needing more money for pay and incentives just to keep the military strength where it needs to be.

If the White House doesn't increase military spending, James Jay Carafano of the Heritage Foundation told the Chronicle, the United States could end up with both a looming disaster in Iraq and a weaker military.

That's the mess this administration has got us in.

Few would dispute that we did the right thing going after bin Laden and his gang of terrorists in Afghanistan following the devastating attack on the World Trade Center towers.

But, instead of keeping our eye on the ball to hunt down bin Laden, George Bush's gang in the White House and the Pentagon decided we needed to go after Saddam Hussein. Nothing was going to stop them, even if they had to lie about it.

So here we are. We're pumping endless amounts of money into what is looking more and more like a bottomless pit. We don't have money to help states take care of poor folks on Medicaid, we have no money to solve our Social Security problem, we fund only about a third of the money we promised school districts to take care of special education kids, yet we're going deeper and deeper in debt to fight yet another ill-advised war.

* It makes you feel sorry for our kids, who one day will have to clean up this mess.

[Dave Zweifel is editor of The Capital Times. E-mail: ]


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Knee deep in the Big Muddy
And the damn fools keep yelling to push on
Waist deep in the Big Muddy
And the damn fools keep yelling to push on
Waist deep! Neck deep! we'll be drowning before too long
We're neck deep in the Big Muddy
And the damn fools keep yelling to push on

The entire Republican party is following GWB over a cliff.
Why I do not know.

GRAND - "All men are NOT created equal . . . we are the Supermen."

OLD - "Democracy and Communism do not work effeciently enough. FASCISM has shown itself to be the most EFFECTIVE means of running a society. The Corporations should run the world with we Supermen in charge. We shall be mightier than Rome!!!"

PARTY - "We shall have an outer circle and an inner circle. To the outer circle we shall be the party of Ingegrity and Traditional Values. To the inner circles, we shall be as kings."

This war isn't costing us anything. We're borrowing all the money from the Chinese. The next generations will have the privilege of paying back the debt of George's not so excellent adventure.

GWB doesn't care about the future--
remember how he responded to how his legacy (or lack thereof) might look to future historians?

"Who cares?" he said. "We'll be dead."


So in the short-term, GWB cronies make billions off war profiteering, and drink champagne, cavia r, wine and cheese with Halliburton buddies, send innocents from small towns in TX and ghettos in PA to fight and die in a real (and preventable) conflict with an imaginary justification...

And who cares about the consequences? He's rich, ha, ha, ha, ha-- and will die laughing ha, ha, ha--
Yes, who cares about our grandkids? Who's laughing about grandkids who will payng for the mistakes of these neocon morons in office?

GWB has been called president Pinnochio.
How about Preside nt Psychopath?

Impeach, impeach, impeach, impeach.

The problem is, as they go over the cliff they pull the rest of us along with them.

Hell, no! I won't go!


Neocons = Rubicons

When Rome crossed the Rubicon, it fell.
It was warned.

When Americans were hijacked by neocons, it fell.
It too was warned.

Impeach, impeach, impeach

With the loss of 14 Marines in Iraq yesterday, and a total loss of 21 Marines in the last few days, the U.S. population should finally awaken to the senselessness, nay the immorality and illegality, of the U.S.-led occupaztion of Iraq. The so-called "War on Terror" is a phony phrase designed to elicit uncritical support from ill-informed citizens as well as from a huge fraction of the population seduced by the neo-Con arguments, in much the way that otherwise well-educated and cultured Germans were seduced by the seeming attractiveness of Hitler's pronouncements in the '30s! We can't wait for the Democrats as a party to do anything constructive to overthrow the Fascist government in Washington. It's now time, with the aid of the Downing Street Memo and assorted other exposures of the lying, treasonous actions of the Bush Administration, to get in the streets and loudly proclaim -- in the spirit of the Declaration of Independence -- the right to overthrow the corrupt occupiers o the White House. We have to reactivate and strengthen the Anti-War Movement which displayed its potential prior to the invasion of Iraq in March 2003. And move to Impeach the entire Bush Gang!

What if they had a war and nobody came!

The point is they can not continue this atrocity of war without our co-operation, without our sons and daughters, without our tax moneys, without our labor; it is time to take to the streets and say not only no to war, but HELL NO!

We can not depend on the corupt political parties to stop the atrocities, look at the voting record the Dems are supporting this war right along with the R's; It is up to the people to stand up and take the country back. Join the resistance, refuse to co-operate ,bring back civil disobedience.

This is taking place now. No one's volunteering for the war.

GWB doesn't care about the future--
remember how he responded to how his legacy (or lack thereof) might look to future historians?

"Who cares?" he said. "We'll be dead."

Did bush really say this? Anyone have a source for the quote?

I will look up that quote. And if I do find anything, I will post a link to the site that contains it, making sure the site is authentic of course. Wouldn't surprise me if he did say it though.

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