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Here's the roll call as the House voted not to "authorize" Libya war.
And here's the roll call as the House voted against restricting the funding of the Libya War.
Thus do "war opponents" fund wars.
We should not, however, that the only truly decent vote was against restricting the funding of an illegal war, and a handful of principled members probably voted No but will vote Yes on Kucinich's resolution to block all funding.
Attention Now Turns to Kucinich-Amash Amendment for Total Cutoff of Funds
WASHINGTON, D.C. (June 24, 2011) -- Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) today made the following statement after the House of Representatives rejected a measure offered by Representative Rooney that would have limited the U.S. involvement in the war in Libya. The Rooney bill was defeated after a bill authorizing the war in Libya was soundly defeated by 295 to 123.
“Congress today voted overwhelmingly against authorizing the war. The Rooney resolution was defeated because many Members felt that it did not go far enough in that it wasn’t a total cutoff of funding. But that condition is soon to be resolved.
“The most powerful opportunity to end the war in Libya now becomes the bipartisan Kucinich-Amash amendment to the Defense Appropriations bill that would fully cut off all funds for the war," said Kucinich.
“The American people do not support this war. Congress does not support this war.”
From USA Today:
The U.S. House rebuked President Obama over Libya policy today, voting down a resolution that would granted him authority for the military operation against Moammar Gadhafi.
Members are now considering a resolution that would cut off some funds for the military operation, in protest of Obama's refusal to seek congressional approval for the action.
Constitution Must Not be a Doormat, Congress Must not Be a Rubber Stamp
WASHINGTON, D.C. (June 24, 2011) -- Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-OH), who has led bipartisan opposition to the war in Libya, today addressed the House, urging his colleagues to take a two-step approach to ending the U.S. involvement in the war in Libya.
Congressman Kucinich will also be sending messages encouraging his colleagues to end the war with two votes. Step 1; Vote YES for H.R. 2278, which ends U.S. direct hostilities immediately, and Step 2; Vote YES for the Kucinich-Amash resolution to the FY 2012 Department of Defense Appropriations bill to end all involvement in the war by October 1, 2011.
The full text of Congressman Kucinich’s address follows:
“We have been in Afghanistan for ten years at a cost of over a half trillion dollars, in Iraq for eight years at a long term cost of at least three trillion.
Washington D.C. (June 23, 2011) – Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-OH), who has led House opposition to the war in Libya, is today urging Members of Congress to support a two-step process to end the war in Libya and to promote a political solution. He sent the following letter to colleagues:
June 23, 2011
End the War in Two Steps
The war in Libya is illegal, unconstitutional and unwarranted. It must end. Congress must use the power of the purse to cut off funds for the war and reassert its Constitutional authority over war as enshrined in Article 1, Section 8.
Washington D.C. – The co-chairs of the Congressional Progressive Caucus Peace and Security Taskforce call on Congress and the president to immediately end our war in Libya. The U.S. has been engaged in hostilities for over 90 days without congressional approval, which undermines not only the powers of the legislative branch but also the legal checks and balances put in place nearly 40 years ago to avoid abuse by any single branch of government.
By Mike Ferner, Interim Director, Veterans for Peace
Begging your forbearance, I just had to take a break from ongoing administrative duties here at the VFP office to respond to the most recent in a long string of grotesque outrages.
I'm referring to the Obama administration's response to a federal lawsuit filed by Rep. Dennis Kucinich and 9 other Members of Congress contending the Libyan adventure is unconstitutional, as well as a letter from House Speaker Boehner warning the President to observe a deadline in the War Powers Act and get Congressional approval for invading Libya.
The administration's response to Congress -- and I am not joking or borrowing a line from the Daily Show -- is that Mr. Obama can spend a billion dollars bombing the daylights out of Libya based on nothing more than his own authority because:
· it falls short of a “war” in the constitutional sense.
Here's what Congress members should back:
Ten Cosponsors for Kucinich-Amash Libya Defund Amendment
Washington D.C. (June 22, 2011) – Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-OH), who has led House opposition to the war in Libya, and Michigan Republican Justin Amash who has also been a vocal opponent to the war, are officially introducing an amendment to the FY 2012 Defense Appropriations bill to cut off funds for the war in Libya.
Other cosponsors include Congresspersons Barbara Lee (D-CA), Mike Honda (D-CA) Lynn Woolsey (D-CA), Walter Jones (R-NC), Tom McClintock (R-CA), Peter DeFazio (D-OR), Peter Stark (D-CA) and Ron Paul (R-TX).
“The war in Libya is illegal, unconstitutional and unwarranted. It is critical that Congress move forward to exercise its power of the purse and cut off funds for the war,” said Kucinich.
Prior to consideration of HR 1540, National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012 in May, 2011, Kucinich offered an amendment to end the war, but it was blocked from floor consideration. Since then, appropriations bills have been thus far considered under a rule that allows all amendments.
The following is a dangerous position taken by Congressman Kucinich in that, by choosing the lesser of two evils, he nonetheless would help Congress go on record as agreeing that certain military actions are not "hostilities" or subject to Congressional authorization. In contrast, the worse of the two evils, the resolution authorizing the war, fails to establish any precedents other than the usual one of an irrelevant Congress pretending to matter and endorsing crimes after the fact.
Washington D.C. (June 22, 2011) – Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-OH), who has led House opposition to the war in Libya, is today urging Members of Congress to support a resolution modeled from a Kucinich resolution to end the war in Libya. He sent the following letter to colleagues:
June 22, 2011
This week, pursuant to resolutions crafted by Speaker Boehner, you will be given two options on Libya. One would continue the war in Libya. The other would withdraw U.S. Armed Forces from hostilities.
The first resolution would authorize the war to continue for at least another year, at a potential cost of billions.
The second resolution is not perfect, but represents our best chance of creating conditions that lead to the end of the war. While it is modeled after my resolution calling for full withdrawal, it allows the United States to provide “non-kinetic” intelligence and operational support for NATO, while making it clear that the United States will not take over the war as European support continues to diminish.
The second resolution will not end the war immediately, but it will prohibit the Administration from expanding U.S. involvement in the war.
Other nations lack the United States’ capabilities to continue the war. Other nations are losing support for the war from their public. The withdrawal resolution would prevent this Administration from causing the U.S. to take over the war in Libya as other nations step back.
I urge you to vote NO on the resolution which authorizes the war in Libya and continues the war for another year. I urge you to vote YES on the resolution which orders the withdrawal of U.S. Armed Forces from hostilities in Libya. This is a defining moment. Let us use our constitutional authority to bring an end to a war.
Dennis J. Kucinich
Member of Congress
Washington D.C. (June 21, 2011) -- Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-OH), who has led House opposition to the illegal, unconstitutional and unwarranted war in Libya, today distributed the following leaflet to his colleagues ahead of the consideration of the Fiscal Year 2012 Department of Defense Appropriations bill:
1. It is unconstitutional. Article 1, Section 8 of the United States Constitution gives Congress the war power. The President has made it clear he believes he does not need Congressional consent to conduct this war. If Congress does not challenge this war, there will be more wars to follow.
Dave Crouch looks at War is a Lie by David Swanson, a new book about the stories our rulers tell to sell their imperial projects
Does this sound familiar? A dictator is massacring his own people. He is a threat not only to the region, but also to us here in Britain.
He has weapons of mass destruction.
Something must be done—urgently. While we hesitate, children are dying. People are being hideously tortured. They are defenceless. They are pleading for us to act.
We have the technology to ensure swift and clean victory. The choice is civilisation or barbarism.
With overwhelming firepower and precision bombing, we can stop this tyrant. There is no alternative.
These were the lies peddled to the British public in 2003 when Tony Blair dragged us into the disastrous war in Iraq.
NATO Bomb Kills Civilians in Tripoli
“A Political Settlement May Be the Only Way to Truly Protect Libyan Civilians”
Washington D.C. (June 20, 2011) – Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) today wrote to Secretary General of the United Nations, Ban Ki-moon, and Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court, Luis Moreno-Ocampo, urging accountability for NATO’s recent attacks which resulted in the deaths of innocent civilians.
“In light of this event, I reiterate my request that the United Nations (U.N.) take immediate steps to ensure that member states, acting in Libya under NATO and pursuant to a U.N. mandate to protect civilians, are held accountable for possible violations of international law and pertinent U.N. Security Council resolutions,” wrote Kucinich.
Kucinich also enclosed a copy of a blueprint for peace and self-determination in Libya as a proposal to begin negotiations on a political settlement that would end the conflict which continues to put civilians at risk in Libya.
“It is vital that NATO work with the U.N., its member states and the international community toward a politically negotiated end to the conflict. Indeed, a political settlement may be the only way to truly protect Libyan civilians from harm and bring an end to a protracted conflict. To that end, I have enclosed a structured series of steps patterned after the African Union effort which can serve to end the conflict,” wrote Kucinich.
See a signed copy of the letter here.
And least we not forget the millions of refugee's created in our names, the U.S., over the past decade in Iraq and Afghanistan as well as area's of Pakistan!
TRIPOLI, Libya (AP) - NATO said Saturday it mistakenly struck a column of Libyan rebel vehicles in an airstrike near an eastern oil town two days earlier and expressed regret for any casualties that might have resulted.
The alliance has accidentally hit rebel forces before in its air campaign to protect civilians in the civil war between Moammar Gadhafi's military and the fighters trying to end his more than four decades in power. The rebels have also complained that NATO's strikes have not helped them gain decisive momentum against the Libyan leader's better trained and equipped military, which still has firm control over most of western Libya. The rebels control much of the east.
The alliance statement gave no figures on casualties from Thursday's airstrike, but said it regretted "any possible loss of life or injuries caused by this unfortunate incident."
For years there was debate on Capitol Hill over whether or not Congress could end a war by cutting off the funding. Despite the Constitution's clarity, and the clarity of numerous precedents, Senator Russ Feingold was obliged to hold hearings to explain to his colleagues what the power of the purse is. That debate is over.
Those who pretended for years they didn't have the power to cut off the dollar spigot have dropped the pretense. Now it's purely about whether they have the will. The reason for this shift, of course, is that they are actually close to having the will.
On May 26th the House of Representatives passed by a vote of 416 to 5 an amendment to the Defense Authorization Act of 2012 sponsored by John Conyers and 17 other congress members that (if left in by the Senate) blocks the use of any funds in that act to put US troops or contractors on the ground in Libya.
Weaknesses of this move include:
Parallels Kucinich Analysis of War Powers Resolution
Obama Overruled Pentagon Definition of War
Washington D.C. (June 18, 2011) – Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-OH), who along with 9 other Members of Congress has filed a federal lawsuit challenging the President’s violation of the War Powers Resolution regarding the war in Libya, today made the following statement after The New York Times reported that the Pentagon’s general counsel and the acting Director of the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel advised President Obama that the war in Libya does constitute ‘hostilities’ as applicable to the War Powers Resolution.
Under the Pentagon and Justice Department's legal interpretation of the War Powers Resolution, the President, after May 20, would have either had to end U.S. involvement in the conflict, reduce the mission or get Congressional authorization to continue.
Duplicitous Congressional Posturing on Libya - by Stephen Lendman
In Washington, hypocrisy and duplicity substitute for resolute action to obey international and constitutional law. In fact, they're mere artifacts long ago discarded to advance America's imperium.
All Washington's wars are illegal. International law permits them only in self-defense. Constitutional law only lets Congress, not the president, declare or wage them overtly, covertly or any other way for any reason unless America was attacked.
Moreover, the principle of non-intervention (a cornerstone of international law pertaining to national sovereignty) prohibits meddling in the internal affairs of other countries as stipulated in the UN Charter's Article 2 (7), stating:
Michael Munk sent this Email:
Don WV of West Virginia wrote to the NYTimes June 17 in response to its revelation that Obama
rejected the advice of this Office of Legal Counsel in refusing to ask Congress to vote on his Libyan war. With a straight face, Obama claimed that it depended on what "hostilities" are.
"On April 26, the Defense Department designated troops operating in Libya, Tunisia and a portion of the Mediterranean Sea as eligible for imminent danger pay of $225 a month, retroactive to March 19, which was the onset of Operation Odyssey Dawn/Unified Protector. According to the Pentagon, such a designation applies to "foreign areas where U.S. military personnel are
subject to the threat of physical harm or imminent danger on the basis of civil insurrection, civil war, terrorism or wartime conditions. Maybe the White House can help Congress understand why U.S. troops are entitled to combat pay absent "hostilities!!
Amendment Would Cut off Funds for Libya War
Washington D.C. (June 17, 2011) – Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-OH), who has led House opposition to the unauthorized war in Libya and filed a complaint in federal court to challenge the war, will again offer an amendment to the upcoming Defense Appropriations bill to cut off funds for the continuation of the war.
“This Administration brought our nation to war without Congressional approval or the support of the American people. When Congress demanded an explanation, the Administration tried to argue that bombing operations and support of other countries’ military operations in Libya, which cost almost $9.5 million per day, do not constitute war. In a direct challenge to Congress, the Administration is continuing the war despite its inability to provide a constitutional or legal justification for bypassing Congress. Congress must use its constitutional authority of the power of the purse to end this war.
When a national television program this week needed to find a spokesperson for the right of presidents to launch wars without congressional authorization, it turned -- to the great shame of us University of Virginia alumni -- to Robert Turner. He is the co-founder of the University of Virginia's Center for National Security Law.
The arguments made to "legalize" war, torture, warrantless spying, and other crimes by John Yoo and Jay Bybee and their gang are looking rational, well-reasoned, and impeccably researched in comparison with Obama's latest "legalization" of the Libya War.
Here's the key section from Wednesday's report to Congress:
On Wednesday in federal court, 10 members of the U.S. Congress sued President Obama in an attempt to end U.S. involvement in a war in Libya.
These are the plaintiffs: Dennis Kucinich (D-OH), Walter Jones (R-NC), Howard Coble (R-NC), John Duncan (R-TN), Roscoe Bartlett (R-MD), John Conyers (D-MI), Ron Paul (R-TX), Michael Capuano (D-MA), Tim Johnson (R-IL), and Dan Burton (R-IN).
According to a statement from Congressman Kucinich:
Members of Congress to Announce Federal Lawsuit Concerning President Obama, the Libyan War and the American People
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Washington D.C. (June 15, 2011) – Congressmen Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) and Walter Jones (R-NC) will tomorrow lead a bipartisan group to file a complaint in federal court concerning President Barack Obama, the war in Libya and the American people.
Date: June 15, 2011
Location: Courthouse Steps, 333 Constitution Avenue N.W. Washington D.C. 20001
Kucinich, Jones and fellow members will make remarks on the steps of the United States District Court for the District of Columbia following the filing of their lawsuit. They will be available for questions at that time.
And now we're over a decade of oh so many lessons not learned and in not one but two theaters of with a third front being bombed and invaded right next door to one of the two and joined with NATO in bombing another that the previous administration had brought the leader of back into the fold after years of calling him a terrorists supporter and supporting terrorists criminal acts!
As we were coming out of Vietnam, especially in the end of, the Country with almost one voice said they'd "never forget the lessons of!" that lasted oh probably five minutes or, even without cable then, a couple of news cycles as we've seen during this whole past decade. The War Hawk Neo-Cons thought they had the lessons, not the real lessons of wars of choice, needed to occupy and control an invaded country, well a decade plus later DeJa-Vu all over again.