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Impeach Bybee

One reason Attorney General Alberto Gonzales was forced to resign was the growing support for a bill in the House that read in its entirety:

Resolved, That the Committee on the Judiciary shall investigate fully whether sufficient grounds exist for the House of Representatives to impeach Alberto R. Gonzales, Attorney General of the United States, for high crimes and misdemeanors.

For years now, the public and human rights groups have lacked any mechanism for compelling Congress to assert its existence as the power through which we can hold accountable torturers as well as architects of aggressive war. Jay Bybee signed memos authorizing illegal war, torture, and a variety of other war crimes. In July 2010 the House Judiciary Committee revealed that in May 2010 Bybee had testified in secret on the topic of torture, admitting to his criminal memos, placing blame on his former subordinate John Yoo and on the White House, and indicating that the CIA tortured prior to and in manners other than those supposedly legitimated by the memos. Even a serious movement to compel an impeachment hearing for Bybee would change the calculations of those considering the commission of future war crimes, including the crime of aggression. An actual impeachment could begin to bring numerous criminals to justice as each one pointed a finger at others.

Already on record supporting Bybee's impeachment or resignation are: Congressman Jerrold Nadler, Senator Russ Feingold, the New York Times, the Center for Constitutional Rights, the Courage Campaign, Progressive Democrats of America, Bruce Fein, Common Cause,, People for the American Way, The World Can't Wait, ThinkProgress, Crooks and Liars, Digby, Scott Horton, After Downing Street,, Jeremy Scahill, Dave Lindorff, Congresswoman Jan Schakowsky, Senator Patrick Leahy, American Freedom Campaign, National Lawyers Guild, John Podesta, MoveOn, Veterans for Peace, National Accountability Network, Code Pink, Velvet Revolution, and the Salt Lake Tribune.

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News About Impeaching Bybee:

December 2010: Jay Bybee and Me: Our Secret Relationship

July 2010: How Jay Bybee Has Approved the Prosecution of CIA Operatives for Torture

July 2010 (re secret interview in May 2010): House Judiciary Secretly Interviewed Bybee in May, He Squeeled on Yoo, But Why Has He Not Been Impeached?

July 2010 In a tribute to the handful of dedicated activists protesting his every appearance in court and pressuring his colleagues to remove him, Jay Bybee paints himself - not the victims of torture - as a poor suffering soul.

March 2010: Judge Bybee Gets an Earful.

March 2010: $3,000 Reward Offered for Bybee's Arrest: PDF.

March 2010: $2,000 Reward Offered for Bybee's Arrest: PDF.

Feb. 1, 2010: Veterans for Common Sense calls for the impeachment of Jay Bybee.

Major NGOs Call For The Impeachment Of Torture Lawyer Jay Bybee.

Three-City Protest Demanding Bybee Impeachment.

Now We Impeach Jay Bybee.

Annotated Aggression: Being Jay Bybee.

An Even Worse Bybee Memo.

Watch this video. And this one.

File your own complaint against Jay Bybee here.

The New York Times finally wants somebody impeached and it's Jay Bybee.

Congressman Jerrold Nadler finally wants somebody impeached and it's Jay Bybee.

Senator Russ Feingold finally wants somebody impeached and it's Jay Bybee.

A Spanish judge is seeking an indictment of Jay Bybee.

Jay Bybee's "legal" memos were thrown out by the Bush administration.

Jay Bybee signed memos authorizing torture.

Jay Bybee is a federal judge with a lifetime appointment who was not straight with us at his confirmation.

Lawyers have been held accountable for the crime of pretending to legalize crimes before, see: US v. Joseph Altstoetter.

Any act complicit in torture is a felony under US law.

Every single crime is in the past. "Looking forward" means looking forward to a world in which abuse and criminality cannot be deterred.

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"I was following orders" is a Nazi excuse. CIA employees are civilians and don't get orders.

"I was following lawyers' advice" could permit absolutely anything because there is nothing a lawyer cannot be paid to say is legal.

The advice came after the torture began and the torture was never limited to the approved techniques.

The memo in which Bybee claims to legalize the torture of Abu Zubaydah itself claims only to be valid if certain facts and circumstances are true, which were not.

Secret laws produced as royal decrees are not laws at all, but their drafting can be a crime, and in the case of Bybee's memos violated the Convention Against Torture.

CLICK HERE to ask Congress to impeach Jay Bybee.

We can restore power to Congress AND begin to deter future abuses through one absolutely necessary action.

Bruce Ackerman made the case very well in a Slate article called "Impeach Jay Bybee: Why should a suspected war criminal serve as a federal judge?" Ackerman wrote:

"Jay Bybee is currently sitting on the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco. As assistant attorney general in President George W. Bush's Justice Department, he was responsible for the notorious torture memos that enabled the excesses at Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo, and other places. While John Yoo did most of the staff work for Bybee, Yoo was barely 35 years old -- and his memos showed it. They not only took extreme positions; they were legally incompetent, failing to consider many of the most obvious counterarguments. Bybee was 49. He was the grown-up, the seasoned jurist. He had been a law professor and had served as associate counsel to President Bush. When he was promoted to head the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel, he became the final judge of legal matters within the executive branch. Yet his opinion on torture was so poorly reasoned that it was repudiated by his very conservative successor, Jack Goldsmith."

Ackerman points out that when Bybee was confirmed by the Senate, his role in promoting the use of torture and other criminal acts was not known (well, was still denied by some people), and he absurdly claimed the right to keep his work secret. When torture teammate William Haynes was later considered for a similar appointment, the widespread use of torture had become known, and the Senate rejected him. That's the same Senate, although slightly improved by recent elections, that would have to convict Bybee in an impeachment trial.

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A lot of Americans have probably never heard of Bybee, but that may help Congress members find the nerve to impeach him. Everyone in the world had heard of Bush and Cheney. And everyone SHOULD hear about Jay Bybee. PBS's Frontline echoed a common view when it reported (before the latest memo came out, which is even worse):

"The most notorious document among the memos drafted by President Bush's legal advisers as they analyzed how far the U.S. could go to extract intelligence from those captured in the war on terror is known as the 'Bybee memo.' (PDF File) Some call it the 'torture memo.' The Aug. 1, 2002, memo, sent from Assistant Attorney General Jay S. Bybee to Alberto R. Gonzales, counsel to the president, parsed the language of a 1994 statute that ratified the United Nations Convention against Torture and made the commitment of torture a crime. To be torture, the memo concluded, physical pain must be 'equivalent in intensity to the pain accompanying serious physical injury, such as organ failure, impairment of bodily function, or even death.' And inflicting that severe pain, according to the memo, must have been the 'specific intent' of the defendant to amount to a violation of the statute."

That's the part that some people have heard about. But Frontline goes on to explain:

"This very narrow definition of torture was only one part of the memo, which largely was written by Assistant Attorney General John Yoo. It also asserted that the U.S. ratification of the 1994 torture statute could be considered unconstitutional because it would interfere with the president's power as commander in chief."

Just as that memo is called the Bybee memo (there were actually three such "Bybee memos" and one "Yoo memo" that same August day) and Yoo may have played a role, Bybee almost certainly had a hand in various "Yoo memos" as well. Bybee was on the job from November 2001 to March 2003. To get the full picture of how Bybee and Yoo and their colleagues twisted our system of government beyond all recognition requires reviewing a large stack of memos. Fortunately, ProPublica has posted them all in chronological order, including what is known of memos that have not yet been released (but which President Obama could release in accord with his professed policy of openness if he chooses).

Just take a look at the memos officially attributed to Bybee, and consider whether we can maintain any sort of legitimate government without impeaching him, and whether we want him overruling decent honest judges for the next 30 years. Bybee gave President Bush, upon request, "legal opinions" that a president can ignore international laws, that laws do not apply to various groups of people, that a president can kidnap, detain, and ship off to other lands human beings with no due process, and that Congress has no power to interfere with anything a president does.

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Congress has pretty well accepted that last point. But perhaps it is not too late for Congress to start down a path of rehabilitation by daring to interfere with the actions of a desk-chair war criminal like Jay Bybee.

The Senate Armed Services Committee has already released a report that discusses a number of Bybee's memos at length, including the two from August 1, 2002, that were known when the report came out. The committee pieces together the story well enough to make clear that these memos were requested as cover by those engaged in crimes, and that the memos were used to justify criminality. When the full Senate tries Bybee following his impeachment, these words from the committee's report may be of help:

"The other OLC opinion issued on August 1, 2002 is known commonly as the Second Bybee memo. That opinion, which responded to a request from the CIA, addressed the legality of specific interrogation tactics. While the full list of techniques remains classified, a publicly released CIA document indicates that waterboarding was among those analyzed and approved. CIA Director General Michael Hayden stated in public testimony before the Senate Intelligence Committee on February 5, 2008 that waterboarding was used by the CIA. And Steven Bradbury, the current Assistant Attorney General of the OLC, testified before the House Judiciary Committee on February 14, 2008 that the CIA's use of waterboarding was 'adapted from the SERE training program.'

"Before drafting the opinions, Mr. Yoo, the Deputy Assistant Attorney General for the OLC, had met with Alberto Gonzales, Counsel to the President, and David Addington, Counsel to the Vice President, to discuss the subjects he intended to address in the opinions. In testimony before the House Judiciary Committee, Mr. Yoo refused to say whether or not he ever discussed or received information about SERE techniques as the memos were being drafted. When asked whether he had discussed SERE techniques with Judge Gonzales, Mr. Addington, Mr. Yoo, Mr. Rizzo or other senior administration lawyers, DoD General Counsel Jim Haynes testified that he 'did discuss SERE techniques with other people in the administration.' NSC Legal Advisor John Bellinger said that 'some of the legal analyses of proposed interrogation techniques that were prepared by the Department of Justice… did refer to the psychological effects of resistance training.'

"In fact, Jay Bybee the Assistant Attorney General who signed the two OLC legal opinions said that he saw an assessment of the psychological effects of military resistance training in July 2002 in meetings in his office with John Yoo and two other OLC attorneys. Judge Bybee said that he used that assessment to inform the August 1, 2002 OLC legal opinion that has yet to be publicly released. Judge Bybee also recalled discussing detainee interrogations in a meeting with Attorney General John Ashcroft and John Yoo in late July 2002, prior to signing the OLC opinions. Mr. Bellinger, the NSC Legal Advisor, said that 'the NSC's Principals reviewed CIA's proposed program on several occasions in 2002 and 2003' and that he 'expressed concern that the proposed CIA interrogation techniques comply with applicable U.S. law, including our international obligations.'"

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VFP72 and Individuals For Justice are going to begin shifting our Thurs Accountability and Prosecution demo from the federal building to the Pioneer Courthouse, home of the 9th Circuit Court and across the street from the busiest spot in Downtown, specifically calling for Bybee's Impeachment and appointment of a special prosecutor etc. We will of course send the online traffic we get as a result to your site via link on our web page.

Keep up that "extremism"


Our understanding of Bybee memos got dramatically worse when, on April 16, 2009, a new one was released:

On August 1, 2002, then-Assistant Attorney General of the United States Jay Bybee sent an 18-page official memorandum from the Office of Legal Counsel to the Acting General Counsel of the CIA John Rizzo. Such memos are treated as laws within our government, not opinions, not theories, not briefings, but laws. They are secret laws, but in many cases there's not much risk of us ordinary schmucks who don't know the laws violating them, at least not without also violating public laws that are tougher and more comprehensive. These secret laws tend to consist of permissions to violate the public laws in particular ways. They are crazy laws, because they advise violating the real laws and purport to serve as protection for the claim that the violator did so in "good faith." Nonetheless, they are as much laws as anything passed by Congress, if not more so, since they do not come with presidential signing statements but at most a snide remark scribbled by Donald Rumsfeld.

The secret law that Bybee sent to Rizzo was unusual in that it was a law for one particular person. It was even more specific than that. It claimed to apply to the treatment of one particular person under an elaborate set of circumstances. If the situation was altered, the law would not apply. The individual who received this personal legislative treatment may not have considered himself a lucky man, since it was 18 pages of descriptions of torture techniques that it would be "legal" to use on him. (Can't wait to get your own, right?) Curiously, the memo begins by citing the actual, real, normal, public law: "Section 2340A of title 18 of the United States Code." This is curious because for the following six years both the White House and Congress pretended there was no such law and engaged in an elaborate mating dance designed around the mythical need to create such a law anew. You'll recall Congress "banning" torture and Bush signing statementing himself the supposed right to torture anyway. All of that was theater. And during all of that theater, the people doing the torturing were concerned that they be protected, down the road, from prosecution for their violations of the actual law.

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Section 2340A of title 18 of the U.S. Code says this: "Whoever outside the United States commits or attempts to commit torture shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both, and if death results to any person from conduct prohibited by this subsection, shall be punished by death or imprisoned for any term of years or for life."

And 2340C adds this for the benefit of the people writing the "legal" permissions to violate it: "A person who conspires to commit an offense under this section shall be subject to the same penalties (other than the penalty of death) as the penalties prescribed for the offense, the commission of which was the object of the conspiracy."

And what is torture? According to 2340 it is "an act committed by a person acting under the color of law specifically intended to inflict severe physical or mental pain or suffering (other than pain or suffering incidental to lawful sanctions) upon another person within his custody or physical control."

And then there is Section 2441, which prescribes a fine or prison or death to any American who commits or conspires to commit a war crime, including torture or cruel or inhuman treatment. This was the section of law that caused then White House counsel Alberto Gonzales to warn Bush and others that they should deny prisoners in Afghanistan the Geneva Conventions as the best defense of their own necks, advice Obama seems to have taken to heart.

Then there's the Convention Against Torture which requires criminal prosecution of "an act by any person which constitutes complicity or participation in torture" or in "cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment." And the Geneva Conventions which ban "violence to life and person, in particular murder of all kinds, mutilation, cruel treatment and torture," as well as "outrages upon personal dignity, in particular humiliating and degrading treatment."

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Bybee had already written some personal laws for Jose Padilla, one of which included his indictment, trial, conviction, and punishment all personally performed by Bybee in the course of the memo. But this August 1, 2002, memo was a personal law for Abu Zubaydah. And part of the circumstances that made this law "legal" was a ticking time bomb:

"The interrogation team is certain he has additional information that he refuses to divulge. … Zubaydah has become accustomed to a certain level of treatment and displays no signs of willingness to disclose further information. Moreover, your intelligence indicates that there is currently a level of 'chatter' equal to that which preceded the September 11 attacks."

So, under these circumstances, it turned out -- after Jay Bybee checked with the mountain top and declared his new commandments -- that you could legally slam Zubaydah against a wall. Or deprive him of sleep. Or waterboard him. You would need to soften the wall and be careful not to break his neck. You would need to have doctors on hand. You couldn't keep him from sleeping for any more than 11 days at a time. If you slapped him in the face you should be careful not to poke him in the eye. The precautions and limitations are extensive. But so are the torture techniques and the cruel, inhuman, and degrading treatments, which would all seem to be just as degrading even if bruising and death are avoided and therefore the "law" complied with.

However, according to Bybee any torturer would be in the clear legally if they did not "expressly intend to inflict severe pain or suffering." And this could be done by "honestly believing" that there would not be severe pain or suffering, which you would have to if you believed this memo which asserted as much. An honest belief, Bybee assured the CIA, need not be reasonable. In fact "good faith may be established by, among other things, the reliance on the advice of experts." In case anyone missed the point, Bybee went on to simply state that people following his torture manual would not have the intent to inflict severe physical pain or suffering.

But here's where it gets sticky. First, the techniques authorized by this custom-made designer law, and others not authorized, were used BEFORE the law was written as well as after. So the reliance on experts wouldn't cover everybody, and therefore the group of people that Obama just promised amnesty does not include everybody. Second, according to the account that Zubaydah gave the Red Cross, the guidelines given by Bybee were followed only very loosely, with the alterations tending toward the more forceful and punishing. Third, Zubaydah apparently suffered serious injury, suggesting that he experienced severe physical pain and suffering.

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(In fact he told the Red Cross -- and we have no other witnesses since the CIA destroyed the video tapes and isn't talking: “I was put on what looked like a hospital bed, and strapped down very tightly with belts. A black cloth was then placed over my face and the interrogators used a mineral water bottle to pour water on the cloth so that I could not breathe. After a few minutes the cloth was removed and the bed was rotated into an upright position. The pressure of the straps on my wounds caused severe pain. I vomited. The bed was then again lowered to a horizontal position and the same torture carried out with the black cloth over my face and water poured on from a bottle. On this occasion my head was in a more backward, downwards position and the water was poured on for a longer time. I struggled without success to breathe. I thought I was going to die. I lost control of my urine. Since then I still lose control of
my urine when under stress.”)

If that was indeed severe pain and not just a mild case of bodily collapse, was the expert relied upon not an expert and the advice therefore not a legal shield? Or is this just a case of violating the secret law, in which case is that just a case of violating the public law? Fourth, the ticking time bomb was a crock and we know now that our government obtained more useful information from its victim before torturing him than after. Does that alter the circumstances and therefore eliminate the specially designed law? Or is the bomb still magically ticking away very slowly, year after year, until we develop the patriotic courage to crush Mr. Zubaydah's testicles and finally learn the truth and save the television actress?

Sadly, Mr. Bybee may be too busy to rush to our rescue or to draft you your own personal torture law at the moment. That's because, even though his own crazy laws were discarded by Bush's Justice Department, even though Spain has been trying to indict him, even though he approved sticking Zubaydah in a small box with an insect, slamming him against a wall, and water-torturing him, Jay Bybee is serving as a federal appeals court judge in the Ninth Circuit. If we had a justice system he would be standing trial. If we had a Congress, he would be impeached.



Nothing requires that the high crimes and misdemeanors be committed in someone's current office.

One of the penalties that can follow conviction is barring from holding any office.

Two people have been impeached or tried despite being out of office.

It would make no sense to be protected by switching to a different office.

The high crimes and misdemanors were not known at the time of Bybee's confirmation.

Bybee does not meet the necessary standard of integrity and public confidence for his current position.

There are numerous cases now in the 9th circuit that Bybee cannot be involved in:
John Yoo case
FISA cases
muslim charity case

There MAY have been perjury in the confirmation hearing (research needed!)

There might also have been a failure to disclose in response to an open-ended question in the questionnaire.

CrooksAndLiars supports impeaching Bybee.


Jeremy Scahill on this topic.

Bybee: family man and good Mormon.

Digby on this topic and Bybee's defense lawyer.

Action Alert from CCR.

Scott Horton on this topic.

John Nichols on this topic.

Common Cause now backs this demand as well.

ThinkProgress now supports this demand as well.

Dave Lindorff on this topic.

People for the American Way now supports this demand as well.

Rep Jan Schakowsky has told ThinkProgress she favors impeaching Bybee.

Senator Leahy now says Bybee misled the Senate and should resign. From CNN:

Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vermont, chair of the Senate Judiciary committee, called for his resignation. "If the White House and Mr. Bybee told the truth at the time of his nomination, he never would have been confirmed," Leahy said. "So actually, the honorable and decent thing for him to do now would be to resign. If he's an honorable and decent man, he will."

New column: Lyons: Torture memos' author has no place on federal bench.

Pelosi refuses to take this one off the table.

New video on The Jay Bybee Problem.

John Podesta who 4 days before the bombs hit Baghdad told Democratic congress members not to impeach Bush or Cheney, to let the war go forward, and to consider any number of dead bodies a price worth paying for an electoral calculation, John Podesta who doesn't sneeze without Obama's permission, John Podesta wants Bybee impeached. Is that good enough for you, Mr. Conyers? Your F&$&%^#&)! Party wants it. Either someone's blackmailing you, or you've completely lost your faculties, or you're about to try to put impeachment back in our Constitution. Right?

On April 29, 2009, Jay Bybee said that knowing everything he knows now he would commit the exact same crimes today.

Leahy has invited Bybee to testify (yeah, right!).

PFAW has proposed some questions for Bybee.

MoveOn finally wants somebody impeached and it's Jay Bybee.

There is an even worse Bybee memo.

Bybee Made a Deal With the Devil.

Salt Lake Tribune Wants Bybee Impeached: This Is His Home Territory.

Bush Owed Bybee for More Than Just "Legalizing" War and Torture.

The Bybee Question: Is Impeachment Appropriate?

Check out the sort of rulings Bybee is making on the Ninth Circuit.

Seattle lawyers want Bybee gone.

Bybee's Distance Adds to Responsibility for Torture.

Here are the members of the Judiciary Committee's Impeachment Task Force.

Oahu County (Honolulu) Democratic Party Passes Resolution Supporting Impeachment of Bybee.

Ninth Circuit Refuses to Discipline Bybee.

Judge Bybee Gets Yelled at in Court.

How to Trap a Torture Judge.

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I have a terrible feeling that Obama is not going to pursue criminal prosecution against George W. Bush and others—contrary to what has been fittingly suggested by the Society of American Law Teachers.

Please check out the information below to see why.

I like black people.

Black people are cool!

With all due respect to Obama: I really don’t mean to insult Obama, but I have a terrible feeling that Obama is not going to be substantially helpful in terms of so much of the racial discrimination inflicted against black people by white people.

Bush’s racial discrimination against black people was of epic proportions—with no sheriff, prosecutor, or court to uphold the “RULE OF LAW” and stop it from happening.

I can’t picture that Obama is about to go and undo all of Bush’s racial discrimination against black people.

For example, Bush murdered a black woman—Margie Schoedinger.

“One of those very least were George Bush’s personal complicity in the death (murder to be precise) of my friend Margie Schoedinger in September of 2003. Determining the exact whereabouts and contacts of [then] president-elect George Bush on September 21 thru 22, 2003, should be entirely lacking in difficulty” (Leola McConnell (Nevada Progressive Democratic candidate for U.S. Senate in 2010). Retrieved November 29, 2008, from

Obama should have the guts to assemble workers from the FBI and/or one or more state attorney general offices and say something similar to the following:

“I, Obama, am the most powerful person in America now. Bush is no longer the president and thus no longer the most powerful person in America. I, Obama, am in control now. I, Obama, demand that the ultimate law-enforcement workers in this country investigate Bush and then proceed to have him locked away for life or executed for murdering the black woman—Margie Schoedinger. I, Obama, am black, and I find Bush’s murder of Margie Schoedinger to be personally offensive. I, Obama, feel it is once again like the time of slavery when white people killed black people with no sheriff, prosecutor, or court to stop it from happening or prosecute it. I, Obama, am not going to go around in the modern-day democracy feeling like a black slave of white people—especially while I am the president of the United States. I, Obama, want Bush brought down for murdering a black woman. I, Obama, want Bush brought down for racially discriminating against black people pursuant to Hurricane Katrina. I, Obama, am going to supply financial compensation to the black people who were harmed by Bush’s racial discrimination and who are still alive. I, Obama, am taken aback by Bush having been so evil in wrongfully causing the deaths of so many black people pursuant to his racist response relative to Hurricane Katrina. I, Obama, am going to take advantage of my time as a racial-minority president and not allow “Bush’s KKK-Neo-Nazi mentality” to rule over and oppress black people in America.”

Unfortunately, I can’t picture Obama having the guts to assemble workers from the FBI and/or one or more state attorney general offices to rightfully bring Bush down—as suggested above.

What does this mean?

Does this mean that Obama is going to be a huge disappointment to black people and/or racial minorities otherwise?

Does it mean that Obama realizes that the U.S.A. is a predominantly white country and doesn’t want to rub powerful, former, white, government officials the wrong way?

Does it mean that Obama is like a black person who prances around wearing a KKK outfit or a uniform featuring the swastika symbol—in a figurative sense (not a literal sense)?

Does it mean that Obama is a weakling?

This is Obama’s opportunity to flourish and champion the interests of racial minority people in the U.S.A. Obama has four or eight years to do just that. To the extent Obama “steps down” to what can be illustratively referred to as the “Bush-KKK-Neo-Nazi mentality” while Obama is the most powerful person in the country, Obama simply disappoints racial minority people all over the place.

Obama needs to show that he is in charge, pursue Bush for murdering the black woman—Margie Schoedinger, financially compensate and/or restore and/or reward black people who were racially discriminated against and harmed by Bush pursuant to Hurricane Katrina, fight racial profiling, and make America a better place for all racial minority people who are racially discriminated against.

Of course, Obama needs to seek prosecution against Bush and the others.

But if Obama does not even help out his own people, specifically, black people, where Bush had victimized so many of them, then Obama probably will not try to bring Bush down for warrantless surveillance; torture; cruel, inhuman, and degrading treatment of suspects; etc.

Obama needs to change and participate in seeking incarceration against Bush.

If Obama is not prepared to change accordingly, then he really shouldn’t have been talking about “change.”

Submitted by Andrew Yu-Jen Wang
B.S., Summa Cum Laude, 1996
Messiah College, Grantham, PA
Lower Merion High School, Ardmore, PA, 1993

These were fine and perceptive comments, embracing the slightly champagne bubbled respect for the new regime currently cork popping through the press and country. Women still got a family planning slap in the face, true equality has not arrived and much gained in a short time only reflects the accession of the outside people's will in issues we have championed throughout the decade. Many horses are still short in the long distance race.

Of course efforts by the DNC to bring accountability for
the Cheney Conspiracy to the public arena of justice will
be token or half-measured at best, leaving True Americans
sensing positive action but in reality bluffed and kicked
in the nuts. The better effort is not just our internet
wave assault, which can be misinterpreted by establishment
media, but a mutli-partisan exterior public demand for truth through in depth investigation of a multitude of perps. With a broader multi-partisan umbrella we can bring innocently duped grassroots republicans in as well
as our worthy Vet and Libertarian allies.

Treetop leadership is not ultimately for us and the expanding forum seeking redress against secret government
conspiracies blazes the road to internet driven direct
democracy itself. It is too early and also too late to
kiss up to a still interior-controlled government, however reform painted.

Usually a revolution is not stopped at half time. If our
third quarter rush is good, longer passes can also be made.
Long live the internet driven direct democracy revolution
and God of individual choices save our Global Village from
the hands of both Mother Nature assaulted and those who
rape honor, equality and humanity in a new status quo of indecision and half measures.

Hey David! Have you corresponded with Glenn Greenwald or Jonathon Turley about this? This is KEY! I wasn't aware how consequential and important a player this clown was until you posted this. This is very important! Please keep this up for a while so other people are made aware! This other topics you publish here are important, but getting Bush and Cheney are the whole reason for this site! (At least they used to be). Focus man, focus! Best regards and thanks again.

a petition

BTW, I'm #6 on the petition.

Rove is pardoned forever. Only, Obama is president at a time of war and he can invoke a signing statement revolking everything Bush did. Watch and enjoy.


Nazi Jurist Ernst Janning confesses to crimes against peace, war crimes, crimes against humanity, click here

Keep in mind that Judge Roberts granted herr bush immunity from prosecutin, so he's off the hook.

The California Democratic Party will be considering a resolution at its state convention at the end of April to call for the impeachment of Judge Bybee. Contact to help with this.

Nazis Jurist Ernst Janning (Burt Lancaster in Judgement at Nuremberg)testifies at his Nuremberg Trial for war crimes and openly admits his guilt and open complicity in providing legal cover for the murderous Nazis Third Reich, much like Jay Bybee legally facilitating Bush's war crimes and torture policies with his memos, Link:

One of the charges should be conspiracy to commit torture.

* United States Code

U.S. Code as of: 01/19/04
Section 2340A. Torture

(a) Offense. - Whoever outside the United States commits or attempts to commit torture shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both, and if death results to any person from conduct prohibited by this subsection, shall be punished by death or imprisoned for any term of years or for life.
(b) Jurisdiction. - There is jurisdiction over the activity prohibited in subsection (a) if -
(1) the alleged offender is a national of the United States; or
(2) the alleged offender is present in the United States,irrespective of the nationality of the victim or alleged offender.

(c) Conspiracy. - A person who conspires to commit an offense under this section shall be subject to the same penalties (other than the penalty of death) as the penalties prescribed for the offense, the commission of which was the object of the conspiracy.

Shot at a July rally at SF federal court. Many thanks to Code Pink and World Can't Wait.

Justice Weeps: Bye, Bye Bybee

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