The F List
From today's Hotline:
Here's a list of folks who have either testified or have been interviewed by Patrick Fitzgerald (or by FBI agents) in connection with the Plame probe. Please send us omissions and additions and expansions. Anonymity is guaranteed. To repeat: the list below is of those who have been interviewed by officials in connection with the case. Inclusion does not necessarily indicate that the listed person has testified under oath.
Bush: Early Summer, 2004 (did not testify under oath)
Cheney: Early summer, 2004 (did not testify under oath)
Ex-Dep. Sec/State Richard Armitage
By Richard M. Mathews
Precedent exists to indict a Vice President.
Vice President Aaron Burr was subject to indictments in two states while still
in office. Burr stayed out of those two states to avoid prosecution.
In the case of Spiro Agnew, Solicitor General Robert Bork filed a brief arguing
that, consistent with the Constitution, the Vice President could be subject to
indictment and criminal prosecution. While still Vice President, Agnew plea
bargained a deal in which he plead "no contest" to tax evasion. He resigned the
same day he entered his plea.
For a President, there is no clear precedent one way or another. The closest is
The reason for the season is treason . . . .
Time for some Fitzmas Carols!
O Aspen Tree
O Aspen tree,
O Aspen tree,
Your roots are all connected.
O Aspen tree,
O Aspen tree,
But your sources aren't protected.
How shall we sell the war to them?
Just send some lies to Judy M.
O Aspen tree,
O Aspen tree,
Your roots are all connected.
O Little Town of Washington
O Little Town of Washington,
How still we see thee lie.
The folks below
Don't seem to know
That Fitzmas day is nigh.
The grand jury is weighing
Indictments `gainst these crooks.
The World Can't Wait!
Drive Out the Bush Regime!
Mobilize for November 2, 2005!
Your government, on the basis of outrageous lies, is waging a murderous and utterly illegitimate war in Iraq, with other countries in their sights. Your government is openly torturing people, and justifying it. Your government puts people in jail on the merest suspicion, refusing them lawyers, and either holding them indefinitely or deporting them in the dead of night.
Your government is moving each day closer to a theocracy, where a narrow and hateful brand of Christian fundamentalism will rule.
Filed by Jason Leopold and Larisa Alexandrovna
A second aide to Vice President Dick Cheney is cooperating with the special prosecutor's probe into the outing of covert CIA agent Valerie Plame Wilson, those close to the investigation say.
Late Monday, several sources familiar with Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald’s probe said John Hannah, a key aide to Vice President Dick Cheney and one of the architects of the Iraq war, was cooperating with Fitzgerald after being told that he was identified by witnesses as a co-conspirator in the leak. Sources said Hannah was not given immunity, but was likely offered a “deal
The Society of Professional Journalists’ decision to give its prestigious "First Amendment Award" to embattled New York Times reporter Judith Miller is a blow to freedom of expression. By rewarding a reporter who was apparently collaborating with and protecting a powerful official in an effort to punish the free speech of a government critic, the SPJ is undermining, not advancing, the principles of the First Amendment.
The award, coming two days after details of Miller’s involvement in the CIA leak story and her grand jury testimony were revealed by the New York Times (10/16/05), was defended by SPJ board member Mac McKerral, who told Editor & Publisher (10/17/05), “It’s not a lifetime achievement award.... I could understand people being upset if we were recognizing her work over a period of time, but this is an award for being willing to not reveal a source, willing to spend so many days in jail, and that is how we distinguish it…. Issues raised in the past couple of days really had no bearing on the award."
WASHINGTON - Democrats asked the White House on Wednesday for details of President George W. Bush's private conversations in 2003 with top political adviser Karl Rove after conflicting reports about whether Bush was aware of any role by Rove in the outing of a covert CIA operative.
Rove and Lewis Libby, Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff, are at the center of federal prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald's investigation into who leaked the identity of CIA operative Valerie Plame, whose diplomat husband, Joseph Wilson, challenged the administration's prewar intelligence on Iraq.
By Larry C. Johnson
The smears keep on coming. The airwaves have been filled with folks like like Joe DiGenova, his wacky wife, Victoria Toensing, and Andrea Mitchell insisting that, "Joe Wilson lied" about who sent him to Niger and what he discovered. Well, let's play he said, she said and pinpoint the real liar.
Andrea Mitchell, a woman genuinely confused by facts, said the following on Tuesday's edition of Hardball:
MITCHELL: I don`t know that to be the case, but what I think people need to focus on, is the overall background of what was going on back then. This was a fight -- an internal fight -- between the CIA and Dick Cheney. . . .And in that context, when Joe Wilson went on television with us and in interviews and said he had been dispatched by the vice president, you could understand why Dick Cheney and his people probably said no, we didn`t send him. We had nothing to do with that, because, you know, whether Wilson was told or was simply inflating his own importance, he led people to believe, he said publicly, that he had been dispatched by the vice president.
From Jonathan Schwartz:
Note that this:
BUSH: I don't know if we're going to find out the senior administration official... I don't have any idea. I'd like to. I want to know the truth.
is like this would have been with Clinton:
CLINTON: I don't know if we're going to find out whether I had sex with her. I don't have any idea. I'd like to. I want to find out the truth.
McCLELLAN: He wasn't involved. The President knows he wasn't involved.
QUESTION: How does he know that?
McCLELLAN: The President knows.
Scott McClellan, Press Gaggle, September 29, 2003
Rep. John Conyers
Today’s New York Daily News reports that “[a]n angry President Bush rebuked chief political guru Karl Rove two years ago for his role in the Valerie Plame affair..
By Josh Marshall
In this morning's gaggle, Scott McClellan was asked about today's New York Daily News story by Tom DeFrank, which alleges that President Bush has known for two years that Karl Rove was involved in the Plame leak.
McClellan tried to knock the story down but would not deny its accuracy.
Below is a record of the back and forth between McClellan and members of the White House press corps just after 9:30 AM this morning.
Oct 19, 2005 -- 12:34:12 PM EST
QUESTION: Scott, is it true that the President --
SCOTT McCLELLAN: Welcome back.
QUESTION: Thanks. Is it true that the President slapped Karl Rove upside the head a couple of years ago over the CIA leak?
By Larry C. Johnson
October 19, 2005
Larry Johnson worked as a CIA intelligence analyst and State Department counter-terrorism official. He is a member of the Steering Group of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS).
Face it, America. You’ve been punk'd.
It is now quite clear that the outing of Valerie Plame was part of a broader White House effort to mislead and manipulate U.S. public opinion as part of an orchestrated effort to take us to war. The unraveling of the Valerie Plame affair has exposed their scam—and it extends well beyond compromising the identity of a CIA officer. In short, the Bush administration organized and executed a classic “covert action
By Francis A. Boyle
On 19 March 2003 President Bush Jr. commenced his criminal war against Iraq
by ordering a so-called decapitation strike against the President of Iraq in
violation of a 48-hour ultimatum he had given publicly to the Iraqi
President and his sons to leave the country. This duplicitous behavior
violated the customary international laws of war set forth in the 1907 Hague
Convention on the Opening of Hostilities to which the United States is still
a contracting party, as evidenced by paragraphs 20, 21, 22, and 23 of U.S.
Army Field Manual 27-10 (1956). Furthermore, President Bush Jr.'s attempt to
New York Daily News - http://www.nydailynews.com
BY THOMAS M. DeFRANK
DAILY NEWS WASHINGTON BUREAU CHIEF
WASHINGTON - An angry President Bush rebuked chief political guru Karl Rove two years ago for his role in the Valerie Plame affair, sources told the Daily News.
"He made his displeasure known to Karl," a presidential counselor told The News. "He made his life miserable about this."
Bush has nevertheless remained doggedly loyal to Rove, who friends and even political adversaries acknowledge is the architect of the President's rise from baseball owner to leader of the free world.
VR ANALYSIS OF THE FEDERAL SENTENCING GUIDELINES DEMONSTRATES THAT SENIOR WHITE HOUSE OFFICIALS ARE FACING THE PROSPECT OF LIFE IN PRISON FOR THE OUTING OF CIA AGENT VALERIE PLAME UNLESS THEY HURRY UP AND TURN ON EACH OTHER
It looks more and more like Karl Rove and his GOP associates made a huge mistake when they decided to disclose the identity of Valerie Plame in retaliation for statements by Ambassador Joe Wilson about the implausibility of President Bush's statements about Iraq's nuclear capabilities. By going after Wilson and his wife, they committed serious crimes which, apparently, they then compounded by obstructing justice and committing and suborning perjury. As a result, they have virtually ensured that, if convicted, they could receive a sentence up to life in federal prison under the United States Sentencing Guidelines, which are used to compute sentences based on severity offense levels. The higher the level, the greater the sentence, and federal courts routinely follow the Guidelines in the vast majority of cases.
Tuesday :: October 18, 2005
Let's Make a Deal : The Legalese of PlameGate
Reuters is speculating that Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald may be offering putative defendants one last chance to make a deal in the Valerie Plame investigation.
The prosecutor investigating the outing of a covert CIA operative has yet to say whether he will bring charges, but he has decided to announce decisions in the case in Washington rather than Chicago, where he is based, his spokesman said on Monday....It is unusual for Fitzgerald's office to offer comment on any aspect of the case and Monday's statement led some observers to wonder if it might be a signal that a decision was imminent or that Fitzgerald was trying to increase pressure on potential targets to cut a deal.
Watch at 10 a.m.
See if you can count the lies, and post them below.
By Murray Waas
As federal prosecutors in the CIA leak investigation reach the critical stage of deciding whether to bring criminal charges, they are zeroing in on contradictions between the testimony of I. Lewis (Scooter) Libby, the chief of staff to Vice President Cheney, and that of New York Times reporter Judith Miller, according to sources close to the investigation and attorneys for individuals enmeshed in the probe.
Evidence that Libby might have tried to discourage Miller's testimony has put Libby's testimony in a worse light, according to government officials briefed on the matter.
October 19, 2005
New York Times
By DAVID JOHNSTON
and RICHARD W. STEVENSON
WASHINGTON, Oct. 18 - The special counsel in the C.I.A. leak case has told associates he has no plans to issue a final report about the results of the investigation, heightening the expectation that he intends to bring indictments, lawyers in the case and law enforcement officials said yesterday.
The prosecutor, Patrick J. Fitzgerald, is not expected to take any action in the case this week, government officials said. A spokesman for Mr. Fitzgerald, Randall Samborn, declined to comment.
A final report had long been considered an option for Mr. Fitzgerald if he decided not to accuse anyone of wrongdoing, although Justice Department officials have been dubious about his legal authority to issue such a report.
By Andrew Burgin
Stop the War Coalition
Last night outside Downing Street families whose sons have died in Iraq recreated the Downing Street meeting of July 23, 2002. Rose Gentle read the words of Tony Blair. The recreation took the form of a mad hatter's tea party from Alice in Wonderland. Tents were set up in Whitehall where the families slept. This was the first time there have been tents in Whitehall since the English Civil War in 1640.
DOD Database Places Our Children and Grandchildren at Risk
Elko, NV --- Mothers Against the Draft joined over one hundred local, state, and national organizations today in urging Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld to end the "Joint Advertising and Market Research Studies" (JAMRS) Recruiting Database.
“We’re outraged by the Pentagon’s predatory and illegal actions and in full support of this effort to end the JAMRS recruitment database,
October 19, 2005
The Fitzgerald/Plame investigation goes in a new direction
By Justin Raimondo
Amid all the brouhaha over whether I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Karl Rove, or any number of Bush administration insiders had a hand in leaking the name of covert CIA agent Valerie Plame, the essential crime at the core of the investigation – and its probable starting point – often gets lost in the shuffle. The "outing" of Plame was not an end in itself: the outers didn't just one day decide that they were going to go after her and Ambassador Joseph C. Wilson, her husband, because they were in a vindictive mood. They were out to get them because Wilson drew attention to the provenance of the infamous "16 words" uttered by President Bush in his 2003 state of the union address, in which Bush claimed that Iraq had sought out uranium to make a nuclear bomb in "an African country." Perhaps without knowing it, Wilson – in taking an interest in this subject – was getting too close to the enormous fraud at the center of the War Party's propaganda campaign.
Video of Camp Casey
Would you like to have a 54-minute video of Cindy Sheehan's stay outside W's ranch this past August? Showing this at events is a great way to inspire people to action!
For a copy, contact the film maker, Chun Pan.
This DVD runs 54min 12 sec.
About Cindy Sheehan’s vigil in Crawford, TX
By Chun Pan
I am a documentary filmmaker. I have made a video of my experiences in Crawford, TX, in support of Cindy Sheehan’s peace efforts. I hope you will watch this video and determine how it can help the anti-war movement in your community.
Listen to David Swanson of After Downing Street on October 19 at 9 a.m. ET on Italian radio:
Cindy Sheehan attended the sixth major anti-war rally in Sacramento since August 14, 2005. This time over 400 people gathered at 16th & Broadway, Saturday, October 15th, from 5:00 pm to 8:00 pm. Naturally, this time media coverage was a bit more extensive.
In addition to the warmth and inspiration provided by Cindy, and the compelling anti-war displays and activities we've had out there before, the Capoeira Arts Academy Performing Group performed live percussion, dance and theater acts in the context of opposition to Bush's war.
Toledo -- More than seventy-five local, state, and national organizations sent a letter today to Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, and the Congressional oversight and appropriations committees for the Department of Defense (DOD), seeking an end to a data collecting project called the Joint Advertising and Market Research Studies (JAMRS) Recruiting Database.
Toledo's Student and Family Rights and Privacy Committee, the group now pressuring Toledo Public Schools to restrict military recruiters, is in full support of this effort to end the JAMRS recruitment database because it violates the Privacy Act while collecting data on 30 million people ages 16 to 25 from a vast array of sources such as drivers license or selective service registrations. Other organizations from the Toledo area that have joined this nationwide effort include the Northwest Ohio Peace Coalition, Sylvania Franciscan Sisters, the Interfaith Justice and Peace Center, and the Toledo League of Pissed Off Voters.